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There Is No Place For Race In Our Constitution

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Mr Opinion, I'm not letting you add to the adulteration of this topic by trying to infer some wrong doing on the part of everyone that isn't a borogine.
You are lying and attempting to twist the facts to make your point.
You do realise that by doing so, you render your point or comment, moot.
So to enlighten you somewhat; when the Europeans came along they were just the next lot of inhabitants to become Australians.
You see, if truth be known, the blacks were part of a mass migration coming from countries like Africa and India, to name but two, they were transients.
Like any transients, (gypsies etc.) they would have kept going if there was land further South.
In their transiency they could not go further South so they spread out East and West, in keeping with their usual M.O.
So they were not the original owners or occupiers any more than the Europeans were, but merely happened to be here when the next lot came along.
So in actuality, the blacks are no different or have no greater claim or ownership to this land than we do, but because we moved in and got on with our lives we are NOT going to be penalised or virtue shamed into thinking we have done ANYTHING wrong, especially stolen their? land and dispossessed them.
We have been more than accommodating and charitable in going way beyond what would be regarded as fair and reasonable to help the blacks when we had no reason or right to do so.
Your attitude maligns those, unlike me who have helped and still help the blacks today, by accusing us of anything but tolerance, kindness
patience.
We have done even more than throwing money, (lots of money) at them and their demands.
So I for one will not tend to be swayed or guilt tripped into giving more leeway to the blacks, let them clean up their own house first, then let's see what's left after the dust settles and all the thieves and charlatans have been evicted once and for all.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 21 July 2019 2:25:16 PM
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ALTRAV,

Thanks babe, at least for reading the explanations.
I'm optimistic that the Parliament and fellow
Australians will do the right thing by our
Indigenous people. As stated earlier - what's
being asked is not very much at all and while
the Commonwealth government was initially unsettled
by the Uluru proposal, it has now allocated money
in the most recent budget to develop the detail
of that proposal further.

This does suggest that it has recognised the
underlying merit in it and is prepared to contemplate
it more seriously.

We'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 21 July 2019 2:27:45 PM
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cont'd ...

ALTRAV,

I don't know where you get the notion that
we're going to be turned into an Aboriginal
State? All this is being asked is that they
have a voice in laws and policies that concern them.
For so long this has been denied and white people
have made decisions for them. This has not worked.
So we should all be interested in reforming the system.
Because if we keep doing what we've been doing - we'll
keep having the same failed results.

You can't empower people to take responsibility, if
they're not given any responsibility. That only
encourages dependency.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 21 July 2019 3:02:11 PM
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Give them back their land before the Chinese just take it from the Whites anyway.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 21 July 2019 3:06:40 PM
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Foxy,

Yes, I desperately hope that "fellow Australians will do the right thing by our Indigenous people", as you put it, and that all Australians will welcome their fellow Australians who happen to be Indigenous into a 'completed' and completely equal Australia - as, I think, the great majority of Indigenous Australians hope for as well.

In all probability, a referendum is a long way off, and even CJ Gleeson entertained the possibility of yet another body to represent Indigenous Australians which is legislated - maybe within this parliamentary term - by parliament and is completely subordinated to it. So no more ATSICs: if this next one goes down the same-old paths, then it can be abolished in an instant. Fair enough.

So it either genuinely works for the Indigenous people - not just for the aggrandisement of a few hot-shots - or it's gone. Sounds fine to me: after all, the Indigenous people of this country are going to be the people who elect the representatives to this hypothetical body, and if it betrays their aspirations, then it's doubly abolished. And given the rapid changes over the next couple of decades, maybe forever. So they've got to get it right, for the benefit of the masses of Indigenous people - and of Australia, eventually.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 21 July 2019 3:10:48 PM
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Mr Opinion'

Please define 'white''

I know about ROYGBIV, so confine your answer to people.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 21 July 2019 3:27:54 PM
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