Foxy, did you just sideline loudmouth?
Because what you wrote tells us, no loudmouth my suggestion is better than yours.
Yet again you push your way through with more plagiarism and still pushing YOUR same old mantra and dogma.
I am predicting that just like the SSM thing, those people who could not be bothered to come out to do the 'survey' last time, will not make the same mistake next time in making it quite clear that the so called indigenous people do not get to realise their unjustified and arrogant demands.
First nations my Ar&e.
The truly 'first nations' people were in fact the convicts.
Even though I will cop the wrath of the great unrealistics, like yourself, it is far more reasonable and justified than giving the blacks one more hint of praise or shekel for having done NOTHING, and therefore are deserving of NOTHING!
Tell me what the blacks have done for the country or even for the people, or anyone for that matter, that they should be rewarded or even revered.
Foxy stop this baseless campaign trying to raise the profile and viability of the blacks.
Those who are aware of this campaign are well and truly over it.

ALTRAV,

More ranting from you does not a discussion make.
I am not sidelining Joe. Merely providing a
balance to the views he's presenting. That's
not plagiarism. It's called dialogue. And it's
what happens in discussions of social and
political debate, which is what this forum is.

How about you providing something of substance?
Ranting, does not count.
Neither does your beating the same ignorant drum.
It's wearing a bit thin.

Give us something to back up your claims that the
Australian Aboriginal people are worthless and
have contributed nothing. The evidence says
otherwise. So show us what you've got to disprove
the evidence of historians.

Put up or shut up.

Do some klutzes not know of Joe's published research, his website and his marital connections.

Foxy, you make it so easy, OK I'll take on your challenge I will now 'put up' and you will finally 'shut up', do I understand you correctly?
Right well, your challenge is too easy.
What I 'put up' to you, is all around for all to see, just how successful your poor downtrodden blacks are.
I give you their progress over the thousands of years they have been here.
It is non-existent.
There isn't any.
The blacks are not progressive and any attempt at trying to make them appear anything but people who have just 'settled' is futile.
Historians can spew out all these theories and quote 'actual' interviews which we are to take as the true account of the times.
Well no one has had the stones to respond to the question; if they were so smart in actually displaying an ability to engage in some new engineering and construction practices, why oh why do we not see them in a more advanced state or culture by the time the white's turned up.
As I said, more than likely the people who built the rock circles/houses, were wiped out by the warm and welcoming blacks, who would not harm a hair on anyone's head.
There are many other examples, but we know you don't want to hear them so I'll just release them as and when 'I' feel inclined.
I don't understand why you promote these inane causes.
It's almost as if you have something to gain by displaying this, what can only be described as extreme adulation for certain people.
I'm damned if I know why.
You really need to dial it down a notch, we're all getting a bit concerned.
Now that I've 'put up', I will, at my discretion remind you and take you at your word to 'shut up'.

Hi O Sung Wu,

As a kid, I lived in Greenacre when it was Chullora, on Waterloo Road. Our mum had taken out an order against our father. God knows how she (or us) survived. We went to half a dozen schools to keep out of his reach. When she re-married, a lovely, quiet, gentle bloke, we moved to Bass Hill, to a one-room place that he built near the paperbark scrub. And then to Penrith.

Exciting times for us ! Thinking back, we were remarkably self-reliant, getting buses and trains on our own at five and six. Our mum couldn't really be a helicopter mother :) Yeah, the Depression had a long shadow. But we got through all that, didn't we ? Tough little buggers.

Our greengrocer in Bass Hill, with horse and cart, was an Aboriginal bloke, with two pretty daughters, maybe eight and nine, a bit older than me. One lent me her comb to try to untangle my matted locks, but I probably gave her nits.

Cheers,

Joe

Joe,

You have mentioned before that, while some people in remote areas have trouble with English, their grandparents can help them out. This means that the situation has regressed; it is now worse that when Whitlam and Coombes decided that they wanted a 'living museum', with aboriginal people as the exhibits.