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The Quality Of Tolerance Is Strained

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The fact is, condemning gays and others to hell is
vilification. Especially when quoting from a book
written by men and translated from the Greek to
English 2000 years ago and open to interpretation.

We've ended up with a huge controversy.
And emotions running high. One of those attacking Rugby
Australia's code of conduct was Sydney's Anglican
archbishop Glenn Davies who eloquently defended Folau's
" right as a citizen to speak of what he believes without
threat to his employment."

David Marr in his article 27th June 2019, in The Guardian,
asks, Is this the same archbishop who compelled 34
Anglican headmasters and headmistresses last year to sign
an open letter demanding the law continue to allow them to
sack gay teachers and expel gay students?

As Marr points out there's one rule for religious schools
and another for the rest of society.

Folau is free as a footballer to vilify gays without losing
his job but were he coaching coaching rugby at a Sydney
Anglican school and tweeting approval of gays it might
well see him shown the door.

If you are demanding rights for yourself which you won't
extend to others, that's not freedom. It's privilege.

And the quality of tolerance is indeed strained.

Marrr points out that we're now in the midst of this
pandemonium because Folau changed his mind.

For a $4 million contract he initially agreed to go easy
on denouncing, among other vices, the evils of
homosexuality. He traded his freedom of speech for money.

So why say yes in the first place and sign a contract if
that's such a profound violation of his rights and his
faith?

And why does he now expect more millions from Rugby Australia
because he's copped the ordinary consequences now of
going back on his word?

Marr auggests that it appears that Folau's
target (homoasexuals - which he inserted amongst others) is
everything in this scenario.

Marr asks -

If Folau was insisting on vilifying say - Jews, the rich,
the disabled, would anyone object to Rugby Australia
insisting the shut up about it?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:10:12 AM
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AC,

I have said what my post is about. I'm not interested in getting into the ins and outs of a duck's bum, and moving away from the subject - that some people who preach tolerance do not practice it themselves.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:19:29 AM
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Hi there FOXY...

I couldn't agree more with your Post! You raised many questions about this man, who appears to me, as a bit of a prima donna. In my mind, he either should play football and keep his own counsel on his moral & religious views or give it up altogether if he can't reconcile those beliefs with his current contractual obligations.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 4 July 2019 12:10:32 PM
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Hey ttbn,

I guess maybe I mistakenly viewed your comment in the context of 'displaying a pattern of behavior within big business', rather than how you meant it in a context of 'intolerance or hypocrisy by those who speak of tolerance'.

I appreciate that you've made us aware of this issue and I'm trying to make a conscious effort not to post too much of the types of comments I do on your threads.

In regards to the context I viewed your comment, recognising the problem is simply the first step and I tend to want to explore the issue further and find it's cause and look for solutions.

In regards to 'tolerance' and 'dictating behavior and beliefs' my only thoughts at this point is how widespread this type of thing in going on with normal citizens in regular employment who aren't in the public spotlight.

I think I did have it right the other day though when I said the narrative is always 2 steps to the left so that they can continually shift the goal posts.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 July 2019 12:11:56 PM
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Foxy,

The fact is quoting a section of the bible that could cause offence to a minority group is not vilification by any reasonable definition. Only the most oversensitive activist could inflate this to vilification, and would distort the meaning to include anything that offended anyone.

Considering that posting offensive material about jews seems to be a national sport amongst the left whinge for which there never seems to be any consequences, you comparison falls flat.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 4 July 2019 12:20:21 PM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

It shall now be up to the courts to decide this case.

Interesting times ahead.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 4 July 2019 12:36:23 PM
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