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I apologise to you for the word toxic. I often think you have very common sense opinions when I read the posts.

Toxic should only refer to men who really are toxic.
I hesitated before using it but it so aptly described the kind of violent and controlling men I was seeking to describe.

There are many wonderful men, my two grandsons in particular but I could be one-eyed about that. I see as young men how they try so hard to find their path in life and I try to build them up by praising their natural male abilities and strength and give them confidence because I realise the effect that the putting down of men has on them, and also the feminisation of the education system.

Cherful, so now you realise the putting down of men and the 'feminisation' of the education system.
I do not accept unsubstantiated stories and scare mongering.
I refute stories like those you mention as they are sensationalised and in some cases, a 'beat up', for commercial and financial benefit by the relevant media or author.
These cases, if scrutinised usually have been overstated for one reason or another, so they are not ALL relevant or true
I am quoting from fact.
I see now, the basis of your agenda.
I don't know what area or era you lived in but judging by your examples of your experiences and life, I can see you have been affected, and quite badly by your exposure to male dominance and violence.
Never-the-less as much as I can sympathise, I will not allow you to contaminate further, an already, what did you call it? Oh yes, 'toxic' situation.
You are being disingenuous by your attitude and contention by your general broad reference to 'men' generally.
You speak so lovingly about your grandchildren, now I will give YOU a stat, and that is; what if I told you that in fact one of your grandchildren was going to, to some degree, become a woman basher?
After all they are males, and they will grow up to be men.
Now how do you rate your comments and your stats?
By the way, your comments and stats about the female deaths, is a non starter.
I have found you out and I would like a retraction of some kind.
As I said, these things are ALWAYS agenda driven.
Does the title, ADVOCACY GROUP, sound familiar to you?
A gaggle of maggots, with nothing better to do than push a moot point, as you have done with your response/comments.
You see Cherful, as I correctly pointed out neither you nor the article breaks down the various categories or the different circumstances behind the deaths.
You would have us believe they were all caused by men.
You have been called out and debunked so your input is now moot/ irrelevant.

Foxy,

You are mostly right, but now donor children have the right to know the name of their fathers after they turn 18.

The NSW legislation does not consider a sperm donor that has no contact as a parent. However, the moment that the donor:

- financially supports the child and/or
- has regular contact and parenting duties, then the high court will then recognise him as a parent.

SM,

I'm glad that we agree on this one.

CHERFUL,

Welcome back to posting. You've been missed.
And, Thank You for pointing out that as most of
us are aware - and sociological research of the
past decades has revealed an astonishing amount of
family violence - between spouses, between parents
and offspring, and among the offspring themselves.

One source of of the violence may lie in the
dynamics of the family as an intimate environment:
close relationships are likely to involve more
conflict than intimate ones, since there are more
occasions for tensions to arise and more likelihood
that deep emotions will be provoked.

Another source may be outside the family,
for violence is frequently a response to frustration. If the person
affected cannot strike back at the source of the
problem - the arrogance of an employer, say, or the lack
of a job, the aggression may be readily redirected at family
members.

Perhaps most importantly, violence between husband and
wife takes place in a general social context that has
traditionally emphasized male dominance and female
subservience as not only you but many psychologists
and sociologists have pointed out. You have lived
experience - which is of great value.

In any event, the extent of violence in groups whose members
are supposed to love and care for one another is not
easily explained and suggests that the modern family may
sometimes be under greater pressure than it can easily bear.

Trying to understand the problem will help towards finding
answers. Denying it will not solve anything, and only
contribute to making it worse.

Cherful,

Nothing personal. I have a thing about the word 'toxic', having been described on more than one occasion as a "toxic little man" by an unpleasant poster whom I longer take any notice of.

Toxic relates to a any poison; any poisonous substance. Not an appropriate word for people, no matter how bad we think they are.

I appreciate your remarks.

CHERFUL,

Sometimes the word "toxic" is used as a last resort
out of sheer frustration -
to describe people on this forum who persist in
personal insults and denigration of those whose views
don't agree with theirs.

We've
all experienced that, it's par for the course on a
public forum such as this one. Accusations of
Marxistm, neo-Communism, Lefties, Feminazis,
Selfish maggots,
and other nasties are bandied about. And this from people
who have very rigid, stereotypical views.
However, of course using words like "toxic only happens
when the right buttons are pushed out
of sheer frustration. And they are terms that we don't
generally use in our conversations with normal people.

So chin up. If you used that term - the chances are
they brought it onto themselves.

Most of the time we just walk away.