ttbn, I agree and not to be seen agreeing for the sake of it and adopting the 'look at moi' arrogance of some, the reason I don't just stop, and give one final burst of abuse and trying to get them to see the error of their ways or thinking, is because they are so full of themselves they will immediately run off shouting, 'we won, we won', and because such is not true, I must persist with calling them out at every ignorant or mis-leading comment or opinion.
It's because we allowed the mental deficients to go unchecked and unchallenged, that we ended up with crap like PC, SSM and a host of other wrongs.
I will eventually move on to greener pastures upon finding a better forum.
This was the best at that time, and I did not feel like looking further, also I had adopted the 'this'll do' attitude.
But for now I will remain, at least until I am forced out or I leave.
Anyway, I hope they realise, sooner than later that their views are not workable or practical in the 'real' world.
People are not going to suddenly become honest and angelical because a couple of do gooder dreamers, want it so.
I wish certain people would stop worshiping politicians, when WE all know they are self centred liars and thieves, how naive can one be?
Then there is this sickening praise of a nobody, simply because THEY are somehow impressed by them.
In fact I would not normally read such fiction but for the fact that knowing who wrote them I have to check for mis-leading comments and lie's, so they won't pass on their disease by infecting others.

finding a better forum.
ALTRAV,
This is a very good forum, you won't find anywhere with no Academia indoctrinated.

Indi, I agree that's why I 'settled in here, but I am finding it more and more frustrating because I can't wear fools, and I am disappointed at how many there are on OLO.
As I said I will stick it out till I get kicked off or whatever.
I find I can't leave because it will give the plebs the impression they have won, which is what they would like.
One less thorn in their side.
I would like to start up my own forum, one that encourages FREE SPEECH, and not this crap these morons are pushing.
One that encourages the writer to say exactly what they want to say or feel.
And I mean if you feel like abusing someone, go right ahead.
The terms of reference will be that anyone even thinks about using PC will automatically be expelled.
But as someone who knows nothing about programming or computers in general, will have to wait till I make the time to have it done.
Anyway, keep up the pressure or they will force their lies through.
Thanks.

The chooks are cackling among themselves, no bingo today at the retirement village?

Il Duce Jr, glad to welcome you back after your sojourn to the old country. Did you manage to visit any shrines to the Great Ones.

Indy, nothing to say about that brilliant idea of yours, when millions will opt out of paying wasteful Aged Pensions, saving billions. They are wasteful, you said yourself your last rise would be spent on more booze, a couple more schooners down at gods waiting room, I believe. What a waste of taxpayer money, bring in the voucher system for old folks. Agree?

Back to the topic.

Being Refugee Week it's appropriate to take another
look at the 1951 Refugee Convention.
We're told that -

It's been more than 50 years after its adoption
and the Refugee Convention remains the only
international instrument for the protection of
refugees and the United Nations High Commissioner
for Refugees ( UNHCR) is still strongly urging
Western governments to respect and uphold the
Refugee Convention as the "cornerstone"and
foundation of the international refugee system.

We can see from the fact-based Report given earlier,
suggestions for how Australia can make things
better for itself. The crux of criticism is that
the Refugee Convention today is obsolete and
inappropriate to deal with contemporary challenges.

We haven't as yet backed out of this legal document.
And we can do that - giving one year's notice.
But at present our governments have chosen to stay
with the Refugee Convention - obliging us to respect it -
because we're a signatory to it and a
Representative Democracy and not
a totalitarian state like China who does what it wants.
and is not a signatory.

The International asylum system has been under obvious
pressure for the last ten years. Neither governments,
nor refugee advocates, have been willing to call for
a review, (until now). NGOs have feared governments would
seize the opportunity to downsize their obligations
and governments have been reluctant to invite
censure and fearful of incurring even greater obligations.

Also most countries have invested heavily in their
refugee determination systems. Sizeable sections of
public service departments, entire organisations of careers
at the national and international level have been
devoted to implementing and promoting the Refugee
Convention.

BTW:

This information has been taken from government
sources - not some "Red" rags or " Communist"
propaganda, as inferred earlier by one of our resident
reprobates.

There's more at: -

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp0001/01RP05

We're told that - "with the collapse of offshore
processing and the likely increase in boat
arrivals into a politically-charged environment a
cross-road may have been reached regarding asylum
policy in Australia."

Experts are advising that "now would be a good time
for politicians to lift themselves above their
blame-game and unconvincing mouthing of adherence to
the 1951 Refugee Convention and open a debate with
the Australian people about the continuing relevance
of this United Nation's treaty" which we've signed
and which obligates us.

We should ask ourselves - "after 60 years ...
whether this Refugee Convention is still compatible
with morally sound refugee and migration policy,
or even with good governance?"

"Does it pose unacceptable risks in particular for
Australia which has a tradition of managed entry?"

The following link gives more, and is worth a read.
Especially as it discusses European modelling on
the subject:

http://theconversation.com/why-australia-should-abandon-the-refugee-convention-4003

Food for thought.