Issy, how are you going with those NAMES, you know the Aboriginal activist who got the big bucks for the Smoking Ceremony, and the NAME of who told you. Otherwise you win another PORKY MEDIAL. I'm waiting, be around to pin it on soon.

Paul,

You suggest, "If you genuinely identify as Aboriginal then your an Aboriginal, even if your DNA says you're an Eskimo."

Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Too ridiculous.

Rhross,

'Culture' is somewhat of an irrelevance, unless you mean it in a sociological, rather than an anthropological, sense. People are as they're raised, and as they are socialised. I certainly agree with you that there are many phonies, who may have discovered in adulthood, maybe, that somewhere, way back, they have maybe an Aboriginal ancestor: quite a surprise. i.e. they have not been raised, or socialised, as Aboriginal in modern circumstances. Maybe they should be required to do a sort of apprenticeship, equal in length to their current age at time of 'discovery', before they can open their mouths or claim high-paying positions.

Cheers,

Joe

Paul,

Happy to oblige.

"Fees for delivering a welcome to country vary. In Sydney, the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council charges between $400 and $600 for the service.[3] Activist Matilda Williams House was paid $10,500 to perform a welcome at the opening of the 44th Parliament in 2013.[4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Country

Fees: (3) above.

"Note: Welcome To Country fees will increase as of 1 July 2018

Old Rate New Rate
NGO Day $385 $400
NGO Night $462 $480
Govt Day $400 $440
Govt Night $480 $528
Corporate Day $450 $500
Corporate Night $540 $600"
http://metrolalc.org.au/services-resources/welcome-to-country/

Matilda House-Williams, an elder of the Ngambri Clan, went home particularly happy with an undisclosed sum for a welcome-to-country speech of six minutes for Kevin Rudd at the opening of the 42nd Parliament in 2008.[1] She was back (as plain Matilda “House”) in 2010 for Gillard’s 43rd Parliament (fee undisclosed), and again for the 44th Parliament, led by Tony Abbott. This time her fee was disclosed: $10,500, for “entertainment services”. With stakes like that, it’s not surprising that the Ngunnawal clan, led by Aunty Agnes Shea , themselves claimed to be Canberra’s traditional owners. Parliament has now squared the circle by naming both clans as owners.[2].
http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016/04/brand-new-timeless-traditions/

@Ismise,

Having one out of eight part Aboriginal great grandparents, means one is so minimally Aboriginal it is a joke.

Two full Aboriginal parents and one is full-blood; one full Aboriginal and one non-Aboriginal and one is half-Aboriginal; below that we are into quarters and eighths which means Aboriginal ancestry is minimal and therefore one is not Aboriginal.

Not as currently claimed. Joe makes the point that if you are brought up in Aboriginal culture, whatever that might be, you are Aboriginal even if you have no Aboriginal ancestry but I don't see that.

Many Australians are brought up by mixed parents - one Greek and one Italian but that does not make them Greek or Italian, it makes them Australian with Greek and Italian ancestry and influences.

Any Aboriginal cultures today, even full-blood, are hybrids of a mix of some sort of Aboriginal culture and British/Australian/Western cultures.

@Loudmouth,

The real question is, just what is Aboriginal culture? Any culture today is sourced in one of hundreds of different cultures from 1788, descended from different waves of migration, different peoples, and influenced by British/Western/Australian culture and so a hybrid of whatever existed in the past.

That is the reality of all cultures. What is Australian culture? The end result of a mix of dozens of different peoples including Aboriginal peoples. The mix creates something new.

Someone growing up in Australia with one Chinese parent and one English parent is no more Chinese or English than someone growing up with one Aboriginal and one Japanese parent is Aboriginal or Japanese.

They are Australians of mixed cultures and ancestry. So much I have read of what is called Aboriginal culture just sounds like any other culture with a bit of name-change. What is so specific to Aboriginal cultures in 2019 that makes it distinct as a culture as opposed to a family culture?

No, No, Issy, you haven't answered the question. I'll put it to you once again.

I'll quote you "One Aboriginal activist is said to have got a few thousand $$ for performing the ceremony" repeat just in case you didn't get it the first time; "One Aboriginal activist is said to have got a few thousand $$ for performing the ceremony."

This claim of yours refers exclusively to the 46th Parliament of Australia opened 2nd July 2019. Nothing else, not the 42nd parliament or 43rd parliament, or the huge amount Artie Phil paid the locals to perform a "Welcome to Country" ceremony 26th January 1788! None of that!

If you don't want to earn another PORKY MEDAL, I'm sure you have lots of medals from over there, you know where. Just name the Aboriginal activists who got those big bucks, and who told you. Very simple!

I await your response with baited breath.