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Where in Aboriginal art, as preserved around the country, is there any depiction of farming?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:44:40 PM
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There is wide speculation here regarding the Indian/Aboriginal connection. Interesting article in the 'Conversation' but it is not conclusive by any means. To quote from the article;
Professor Maciej Henneberg, Wood Jones Professor of Anthropological and Comparative Anatomy at the University of Adelaide, said the research team’s findings were “logical, though based on a limited sample of genetic material.” “There are some indications of similarities to Indian Subcontinent in marital customs of Aboriginal Australians as well as in their morphology,” said Professor Henneberg, who was not involved in the original paper. Joe, something of interest, wife speaking with an Aboriginal elder down in Sydney, a few years back. The chap spoke of an Aboriginal story of a raft (before Cook's time) washed up in the Coogee area with tall men wearing cloaks, women and children. These people spoke a strange language and were not of the Aboriginal type, some died due to their poor condition, while others assimilated into the local tribe. If true, could Polynesians because of storms etc missed NZ and reached Australia? I was referring to the Cook narrative of a "weak, timid, cowardly and incurious" people. Banks would have painted much the same picture, from what little contact they had. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 24 June 2019 7:02:00 PM
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Issy, some Aboriginal rock art depicting farming 40,000 years ago in Oz. Take your pick.
http://www.google.com/search?q=image+combine+harvester&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=O-EUwZFQPyGAUM%253A%252Cc4KQc_dG-M_teM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQv9bCQk9sAl4RoEDnOAYBYI76Y2g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK1s725oHjAhUTfysKHarqAEoQ9QEwAXoECAUQBg#imgrc=O-EUwZFQPyGAUM: Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 24 June 2019 7:32:03 PM
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Hi Pail,
Nearly fifty years ago now, I was working in Ponsonby, Auckland, and got talking to an elderly man from Rarotonga (I think from Manihiki), who told me of a story or legend that Rarotongans had sailed across to the east coast of Australia. He mentioned a range of blue mountains a way back from the coast. I suppose we can interpret that as we wish, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did reach Australia. Polynesians were (and are) amazing sailors. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 24 June 2019 7:56:52 PM
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Paul,
All politics aside, I like the Green ones. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 24 June 2019 8:45:28 PM
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Dear Loudmouth, . I'm back on stream and can now respond to your post of Saturday, 22 June 2019 1:11:49 PM. You wrote : « 2. Pastoralists in Australia, i.e. those who make a living pasturing animals and raising them for market, do NOT own 'their' land: they lease it for a set period from State/Territory governments ... » I'm having trouble following you, Joe. You write in what I call « tango style » : one step forward and two step backwards. As I already pointed out, we are not discussing what pastoralists do today but what the British did on colonisation. You commented in a previous post : « There may have been cases of the early SA colonial authorities, up to about 1849, 'granting' pastoralists freehold title ... » Now you return again to what pastoralists in South Australia do today which is once more, out of context. You also return, even further back in our conversation to the whole of Australia, whereas, in our more recent posts, we had been discussing the particular situation in South Australia during early colonisation from 1836 through to the 1860s. However, to keep in step with you, when we touched on the subject of the whole of Australia from 1788 – much earlier in our discussion – you may recall that I wrote : « In Queensland (my home state), I seem to recall that 30-year rolling leases are fairly common but there are also perpetual leases. Also, almost a third of the land area of the whole state is owned freehold or on freeholding leases that become freehold when the leases are fully paid off. » (Sunday, 16 June 2019 8:54:09 AM). The whole point of our discussion on this thread was to examine what the British colonisers did with the land after they took it from the Aboriginal peoples on the pretext that the Aboriginal peoples did not own it because they did not « farm » it (« till the soil »). . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 24 June 2019 11:27:57 PM
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