Why is there denial of the fact that all humans have the same ancestor, all walked out of Africa, all are Homo Sapiens, all invaded and colonised, and all of human evolution required such migration and colonisation?

Aborigines here in 1788 were descended from different waves of migration. They were not one people as indicated by the lack of a common language and often lack of a common language source. We have no idea which, if any of the roughly 350 different groups were descended from the first Homo Sapiens to set foot on what is now called Australia. Indeed, what on earth does it matter?

Those calling themselves Aboriginal today are mostly of such mixed ancestry that they are minimally Aboriginal and therefore not Aboriginal by any stretch of the imagination. Most Australians are of very mixed ancestry. As citizens in a modern democracy who cares how long we can trace some or all of our ancestry back?

If such longevity counted we would no longer be a democracy. There would be a ladder effect for those with Aboriginal ancestry ranging from 100% down to less than 1%, or in the case of some, no established Aboriginal connection at all.

These would be the superior Australians, i.e. First. Then would come the second and secondary Australians and these would sit on another ladder ranged from how long or short any ancestral connection to this country might be. Someone who became a citizen last week would be inferior to someone who became a citizen last year and on it would go.

Such laddering of citizens based on ancestry is a total betrayal of human rights, democratic principles and a civilized world.

Sure, great if you have a smidge of Aboriginal ancestry and great if you do not. Super to have a part Chinese great-great grandparent and equally super to have a part Ethiopian or Aboriginal gg.

And the idea that invasion and colonisation by those with pale skin is wrong and the same acts done by those with a bit more colour is right, is utterly racist.

Dear rhross,

Yuo write;

“I am sure there were instances of rape by European men, but it would be delusional to claim that Aboriginal men did not also rape European women since rape was a part of 'traditional' Aboriginal culture.”

Rubbish.

Go read some history rather than making these things up on the fly. If rape was part of the aboriginal culture then is was a shining standard of European treatment of Aboriginal women.

Here is a quote from Commander George Sutherland of South Australia regarding the removal of sealers and Aboriginal women from Kangaroo Island in 1819 and I offer it as initial proof. He said of the sealers;

"They are complete savages, living in bark huts like the natives, not cultivating any thing, but living entirely on kangaroos, emus, and small porcupines, and getting spirits and tobacco in barter for the skins which they lay up during the sealing season. They dress in kangaroo skins without linen, and wear sandals made of seal skins. They smell like foxes...They have carried their daring acts to an extreme venturing on the main land in their boats and seizing on the natives particularly the women and keeping them in a state of slavery cruelly beating them on every trifling occasion and when at last some of these marauders were taken off the Island by an expedition from New South Wales these women were landed on the main with their children and dogs to procure a subsistence not knowing how their own people might treat them after a long absence. There are a few even still on the Island whom it would be desirable to have removed if a permanent settlement were established in the neighbourhood."

The abduction and slavery of Aboriginal women would have played a not insignificant part in the attitude of the natives on the Coorong to white settlers. Perhaps the treatment of those ship wreaked there would have been different if it hadn't happened.

So time for you to give me proof of white women being raped by Aboriginals.

@Steele Redux.

You said: If rape was part of the aboriginal culture then is was a shining standard of European treatment of Aboriginal women.

So, if rape was part of the Aboriginal culture, and it was, and well recorded and yes, I do do my research, then Aboriginal rape of women and girls, is benign compared to European treatment of Aboriginal women? Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds?

Rape was a punishment for females who erred, women and girls, in many of these primitive Aboriginal tribes. And that you say is better than an Aboriginal woman taking up with a European man?

I have read more than enough records and reports to know that often Aboriginal women took up with and stayed with European men to escape the savage beatings they got from Aboriginal men.

Some of them, as they said, also preferred 'not to have a wet bum,' the result of the brutal initiation practices which slit the penis top to bottom or bottom to top and which resulted in increased infertility because the semen did not get where it needed to go.

Indeed, the fact that so many Aboriginal women willingly took up with European men is no doubt why we have so many Australians today with some Aboriginal ancestry.

@Steeleredux,

So, here you go, life for Aboriginal women in their real world.

Quote: Paleopathologist Stephen Webb in 1995 published his analysis of 4500 individuals’ bones from mainland Australia going back 50,000 years. (Priceless bone collections at the time were being officially handed over to Aboriginal communities for re-burial, which stopped follow-up studies).[15] Webb found highly disproportionate rates of injuries and fractures to women’s skulls, with the injuries suggesting deliberate attack and often attacks from behind, perhaps in domestic squabbles. In the tropics, for example, female head-injury frequency was about 20-33%, versus 6.5-26% for males.

The most extreme results were on the south coast, from Swanport and Adelaide, with female cranial trauma rates as high as 40-44% — two to four times the rate of male cranial trauma. In desert and south coast areas, 5-6% of female skulls had three separate head injuries, and 11-12% had two injuries.

This fits with the earliest reports from the British of shocking violence inflicted on women by men.

Quote: From 1788, British and French arrivals were shocked at local misogyny. First Fleeter Watkin Tench noticed a young woman’s head “covered by contusions, and mangled by scars”. She also had a spear wound above the left knee caused by a man who dragged her from her home to rape her. Tench wrote, “They are in all respects treated with savage barbarity; condemned not only to carry the children, but all other burthens, they meet in return for submission only with blows, kicks and every other mark of brutality.”[18]

He also wrote, “When an Indian [sic] is provoked by a woman, he either spears her, or knocks her down on the spot; on this occasion he always strikes on the head, using indiscriminately a hatchet, a club, or any other weapon, which may chance to be in his hand.”

To be continued.

Part Two.

Marine Lt. William Collins wrote, “We have seen some of these unfortunate beings with more scars upon their shorn heads, cut in every direction, than could be well distinguished or counted.” [19]
Governor Phillip’s confidant, Bennelong, in 1790 had taken a woman to Port Jackson to kill her because her relatives were his enemies. He gave her two severe wounds on the head and one on the shoulder, saying this was his rightful vengeance.[20]
Phillip was appalled that an Eora woman within a few days of delivery had fresh wounds on her head, where her husband had beaten her with wood.
In 1802 an explorer in the Blue Mountains wrote how, for a trivial reason, an Aboriginal called Gogy “took his club and struck his wife’s head such a blow that she fell to the ground unconscious. After dinner…he got infuriated and again struck his wife on the head with his club, and left her on the ground nearly dying.”[21]
In 1825 French explorer Louis-Antoine de Bougainville wrote “that young girls are brutally kidnapped from their families, violently dragged to isolated spots and are ravished after being subjected to a good deal of cruelty.”[22] George Robinson in Tasmania said in the 1830s that men courted their women by stabbing them with sharp sticks and cutting them with knives prior to rape. The men bartered their women to brutal sealers for dogs and food; in one case such a woman voluntarily went back to the sealers rather than face further tribal violence.[23]

To be continued.

Part Three:

Also in the 1830s ex-convict Lingard wrote: “I scarcely ever saw a married woman, but she had got six or seven cuts in her head, given by her husband with a tomahawk, several inches in length and very deep.”[24] Explorer Edward John Eyre, who was very sympathetic towards Aborigines, nevertheless recorded:
“Women are often sadly ill-treated by their husbands and friends…they are frequently beaten about the head , with waddies, in the most dreadful manner, or speared in the limbs for the most trivial offences…

“Few women will be found, upon examination, to be free from frightful scars upon the head, or the marks of spear wounds about the body. I have seen a young woman, who, from the number of these marks, appeared to have been almost riddled with spear wounds."[25]

Quote: At Mapoon the missionaries could not believe that Aborigines could illtreat their women so badly and stated:

“The cruelty displayed towards women was at times almost fiendish.

One man in a fit of rage seized his ‘Gin’by the head and poked a red hot fire brand in her eye.
If the mother tried to punish the children for anything, the men beat the mother and let the children abuse them.
Telford speared Toby’s dog. Therefore Toby speared Telford’s sister.

Source: The Miracle of Mapoon. Page 96. A.Ward.