Foxy,

You quote from somewhere:

"The Constitution confers upon parliament
a special power to racially discriminate.
The Race Power was inserted, according to
the constitutional convention debates,
to control and exclude the "inferior"and
"coloured" peoples.

"Before 1967, the power was never used. After 1967,
it has only been used in relation to Indigenous
Australians."

i.e. supposedly in their favour ? Are you advocating that this clause in the Constitution be amended to read something like, "All clauses in this Constitution shall be read to strongly support the principle of non-discrimination in relation of any ethnic, 'racial', religious or cultural group, on the grounds that all Australians have equal rights and one of those rights is the equal protection of the law."

Something like that ? i.e. equal rights. Nobody more or less equal than anybody else ?

Do you have copies of George Orwell's 1984, or Animal Farm ? If you have any free time .....

While we're at it, the Flag: Harold Thomas designed the Aboriginal Flag in 1971, it was popularised strongly in the seventies, he was able to copyright the Flag design as his intellectual property, conferring on him the right to negotiate its distribution with a manufacturing company, which pays him royalties.

Ratbag groups are now demanding that since it's the Aboriginal Flag, only Aboriginal companies should be able to market it. Next ? That all whites sit at the back of the bus ?

Equality for all, no more and no less. Including Thomas' right to market his creation through whoever he damn-well likes.

Joe

Foxy,

I have no problem in removing the text in the present constitution that facilitates discrimination based on race, and I have already made that clear.

I am however, surprised that you don't see the irony in removing these clauses and installing other clauses which discriminate based on race.

The constitution is meant to be permanent and suited not only for today but for future ages, while parliamentary legislation is far more flexible, and can be modified to meet the needs as they arise.

Popping in racist clauses into the constitution under the guise of inclusiveness is neither rational nor inclusive.

Joe,

Here's a further list of books for you to read:

1) "It's Our Country," Megan Davis and Marcia
Langton.

2) "First Australians," Marcia Langton and
Rachel Perkins.

3) "Honour Among Nations: Treaties and agreements with
Indigenous People."

4) Mark McKenna - "From the Edge: Australia's
Lost Histories."

And of course the two books mentioned previously -
especially "Dark Emu,"by Bruce Pascoe.

Then we can continue the conversation.

SM,

You're still not getting it.

Never mind.

I fully understand.

Sorry, Foxy, but I don't think you understand anything about Indigenous affairs, except at a secondary school level. SM poses a problem for you of which you are blithely unaware. You give me advice as if I'm your little brother just out of primary school.

Actually, are there two of you, an adult and a child ? Which is which, I wonder ?

See you later, when you get a bit more basic knowledge :)

Cheers,

Joe

Dear Lopudmouth,

Who is the child?

Well the one acting so bloody childishly of course and that ain't Foxy.

You went to extraordinary lengths attempting to get out of accepting the veracity of the girls walking the Rabbit Fence. It took many posts, many links and many quotes just to get you to finally admit that the event even happened so staunch was your belief that the whole thing was fiction.

I sure as hell ain't going to invest time again trying to bring you around on this one I can assure you of that, because you are displaying a pathology and an ideological blockage that requires assistance above my pay grade.

Pascoe is very careful to use explorer accounts.

"As I read these early journals, I came across repeated references to people building dams and wells, planting, irrigating and harvesting seed, preserving the surplus and storing it in houses, sheds or secure vessels ... and manipulating the landscape."

I have read many of those same accounts and they support what he is saying. He is not a charlatan at all, unless of course you want to class people like Mitchell as liars.

You really are a piece of work mate. Go have a good think about why you are so deeply in denial about this stuff. it simply is not healthy.

Steele,

I agree that those girls did travel from Moore River to Jigalong. The question is how ? I don't think they followed the Fence after finding it, but arrived quite quickly at Jigalong from Meekatharra, after spending so much time finding the Fence. Is it possible that they got a lift once they hit the road at Meekatharra ?

In the book, an amazingly little space is actually given to the time when they were supposed to be on the Fence, barely ten pages out of 145 or so, and some of that is just unrelated anecdotes, such as about the bloke trying it on with Mollie. Isn't that strange ?

As for Pascoe, where is his physical evidence, not just imaginatively-interpreted yarns, but remains of dams and wells used in farming, and storing products in houses, sheds or secure vessels ? Any remains found by archaeologists and now perhaps stored in museums ?

Go for it. Let's see how far opportunism takes you :)

Joe