Foxy,

On the Uluru Statement: as Big Nana knows far better than (with respect) you do, it is piss and wind. Please try to analyse such declarations. The last thing Indigenous people need these days is yet more bullshite and thought-bubbles.

Joe

Dear Joe,

I am merely responding to Big Nana's posts in
this discussion. To me it appears that she"
from her comments - appears to
know little about what the Uluru Statement
actually entails. It is not about division.

My information comes from the mouths of
people like Noel Pearson, Warren Mundine,
Stan Grant, Megan Davis, Red Little, Jackie
Huggins, Damien Freeman,
Nolan Hunter, and Galarrway Yunupingu.

If you think they are all spouting "BS" - then
there's nothing more for me to say.
I shan't waste any more of my, or your time.

Dear Loudmouth,

You write of Foxy;

"On the Uluru Statement: as Big Nana knows far better than (with respect) you do"

Absolute rubbish. Just look at the posts of each of them. Please show me one single instance that Big Nana showed a greater knowledge, understanding or appreciation of the Uluru statement than Foxy.

Piss and wind indeed.

Foxy,

Thank you for not wasting any more of my time.

Joe

Hi Joe, no the demise of ATSIC was well publicised and I did read of its fall from grace extensively at the time, just thought SM might have had some fresh stuff, since he didn't actually name anything, maybe he wasn't thinking of ATSIC. There are those that maintain ATSIC was made a scapegoat for government failures to address problems correctly. But that's another John Dory.

Again you go off on that worthwhile tangent of aboriginal health, education etc etc, but its not what the discussion is about. Is it impossible to tackle the "sovereignty" issue and the "recognition" issue at the same time as those other very serious issues are being addressed?

//Currently, the Indigenous Industry is almost totally controlled by a corrupt and incompetent dictatorship of elites, cronies and their relations. It is not the friend of Indigenous people, on the whole. I'm vicious and spiteful enough to wish it a just demise.//

Who are these corrupt individuals? It? Do you mean the "Indigenous industry" as you call it as a whole, or just certain individuals.

Paul

"Is it impossible to tackle the "sovereignty" issue and the "recognition" issue at the same time as those other very serious issues are being addressed?"

Sure seems to be: I suspect the Industry is corrupt enough to use all those crises to flog any and all governments, and incompetent enough not to have a clue what to do about them even if they wanted to. Which would be the end of their bread and butter. Fortunately for them, there's no chance of that soon.

The Industry as a whole: its entire corrupt, Mafia-type, patron/client criminality, structure. Power is its raison d'etre, not necessarily money like an archetypical Mafia but power, mainly power over a defenceless and utterly dependent Indigenous clientele, and power over the in-between/go-between/middle-men bureaucracy, their links up to the higher echelons of government. There are a few decent, honest individuals, but I wouldn't want to 'taint' them by naming them.

Joe