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Relationship and Sex Education Lessons

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If you don't support western values, then maybe you shouldn't live in the West?

"Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling."

Well why did you go to live there then?

There's 2 sides to every coin.
If you teach your Muslim kids your ways;
- In our 'heavily debauched' countries;
Then they will become so polarised in our countries that they will go and kill themselves and our kids too.
Now maybe that's preferable to Islam more than being the shame of your child being gay;
But no-one asks my preference.

My preference is that you take your shite elsewhere.
Preferably back to your own country.

I don't support the west messing with your countries;
And I sure as hell don't support you messing with ours.
Go back to wherever you came from;
Wherever home really is.
Maybe you'll be happier there and it will cause a lot less friction for everyone.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 20 May 2019 9:33:26 PM
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It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds. That is no easy. We do not want to change you lot but we would like to see our children getting balanced Islamic education along with National Curriculum. We would like our children to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time we would like our children to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling regards it as a problem.

We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life.

Immigrants are the creators of Britain new wealth, otherwise, inner cities deprived areas could not get new lease of life. The native Brits regard such areas as ghettos. Integration is not religious and cultural, it is economic and Muslims are well integrated into British society and at the same time they are proud of their Islamic, linguistic and cultural identities, inspite of discrimination they have been facing in all walks of life.

A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Posted by Iftikhar, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 4:01:01 AM
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Yes welcome back, and yes I need something to take my mind from the election results
You may not be aware but in part your faith is part of the recent loss
See people continue to believe folk like you are a threat to our culture
I may share that view but fight constantly to highlight not every Muslim is in any way a threat
So what am I on about? separatism.
I do not see your faith as my enemy, but separatism is
Your Faith has every right to be as it is, but so has the faiths of my country men, and yes our equals, our women
So remember please remember, if I stood in your Islamic countries and spoke ass you do some times here, I could be killed
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 8:47:53 AM
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Iftikhar,

With a clearly bigoted statement such as:

"It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to state and church schools with non-Muslim teachers. A Muslim child needs a state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during his/her developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school"

It appears that what you want is for the state to pay for schools only for muslim students. The reality is that if you want that then like for church schools your community needs to stump up the hard cash yourselves.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:21:16 AM
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Congratulations, Iftikhar,

Your posts are the most persuasive statements that I have read to make me support the 'left'/Green position that religion shouldn't be taught in schools, that state funds shouldn't be used to promote religion, and that qualified teachers should be able to teach anywhere regardless of their sexual proclivities.

Keep posting please, so that I can firm up my point of view on those issues :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:56:36 AM
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Oh Joe I thought you supported diversity rather than the narrow minded Christophobic Greens bigots who are just as totalitarian as much of Islam. You fail to see the hypocrisy of your view. Though far from perfect things went extremely well for about 80 years in this nation under a Judea Christian ethics granted the large number of homosexual paedophile priests that were left to destroy lives.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:43:37 AM
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