From JoNova, "-Bill Shorten, May 8th: iview, 2 mins 30 sec.,

"Do you want to discuss the cost benefit ratio of a $500 billion dollar scheme the Labor Party is proposing to stop droughts and hold back the tide? Shorten doesn’t have an answer, instead he claims you shouldn’t even ask the question. You, sir, are a conniving cheat and a liar".

How can the Labor party have a dill like this bloke as leader, or is this really what the whole party believe is good government?

God help our grand kids if this sort of stupidity is enacted by the next government. If the current generation is this stupid, they deserve the result, but my grand kids don't.

Hasbeen

Do you have a link?

I'm not sure what this is about.

Dan

I take it that 'How could anyone vote for Shorten?' is a rhetorical question Hasbeen. OLO alone is riddled with such simpletons. Some of them have already voted for Shorten, just in case something unpleasant about him (more than we have already heard) is revealed. They can say, 'well I didn't know about that before I voted early' with a clear conscience, if they have one: doubtful in anyone voting for him in any circumstances. His connection with the CFMEU should have precluded him from going anywhere near politics.

Hasbeen you have support!
Not me grin from ear to ear at your pain, and supporter
Henny Penny would be so proud
However the sky is not falling we are just electing a PM who is not in the pocket of big money
PS voted,see they will not let me in the booth on election day, its the red shirt and HTV cards what done it.

Dear Hassie,

You ask - How could anyone vote for Shorten?

For the same reason as anybody would vote for
Morrison, Hanson, or Palmer, et al.

For the same reason that everybody supports
their own club.

You know - football mentality.

Type JoNova into Google Diver & it will come up. She has one of the most sane blogs on the net, & her research is impeccable.

Foxy, I don't come from one of the insane AFL states, & have not had any type of football on my TV in a decade or more. Never have been a spectator, I like to do things myself, not watch others.

Actually with my lady off doing grandmother duties with our youngest 4 days a week, it is such a pleasure to have the TV off. Just about everything on it today is filled with propaganda, & not worth watching

How could anyone vote for Shorten?

Anyone lacking real compassion & love for this nation will !

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-11/federal-elecion-2019-shorten-finds-feet-morrison-panics/11102786
HAsbeen know your enemys,and in your case the enemy is the Australian voter
The link is informative, one sided you may sAy
If so it is the side of reality
this is how Australia is thinking
I truly believe crawling under the bed listening to news corp views and saying it is not happening will change nothing
honest people are confronted by the disunity the last three years has highlighted in this government
That Hasbeen is why people are voting for Bill Shorten

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-11/federal-election-2019-shorten-finds-feet-morrison-panics/11102786
Had trouble posting this try again
Been giving thought to links,after that rather strange warning came up in a post yesterday
The one telling me this was not an artical site
Forgive me, but it asked three things, is [and hopefully it was] a mistake?
Is it a reaction to my first thoughts about the link by Diver Dan
Or was it in spite of it
Friends, think with me here, this is an election, *not a war*
We must live together after it is over
Our country is based, we hope still, on fair go mate
If we let division grow, because voters pick a side we do not like, we defeat ourselves
Read the link, challenge you to, then understand post election the question that must be answered
*Did the campaign lite on policy overflowing with fear work or hinder*

this is an election, *not a war*
Belly,
It's probably our last chance for some economic & social stability, therefore it is a case of choosing guaranteed instability of an ALP Govt & some stability of an LNP Govt.

How could any dill vote for Shorten?

Easy, just be themselves.

Just got hold of this, does anyone know if this is true or fake ?

Why does the Left media protect the left?·       
Because the political commentators of the Left media are either
intermingled or married to the left politicians.
·        It’s a family thing and they protect their own:
·        Greg Combet (Labor) partnered to Juanita Phillips (ABC).
·        Gai Brodtmann (Labor) married to Chris Uhlmann (ABC)
·        David Feeney (Labor) married to Liberty Sanger (guest
commentator on ABC)
·        Barry Cassidy (ABC) former speech writer for Bob Hawke (Labor)
from 1986-1991
·        Heather Ewart (ABC) married to Barry Cassidy (ABC) speech
writer for Bob Hawke (Labor) from 1986-1991
·        Maxine McKew (ABC) married to Bob Hogg (former ALP national
secretary)
·        Maxine McKew (ABC) became Labor politician replacing John
Howard for one term only.
·        Virginia Trioli (ABC) married to Russell Skelton (The Age)
·        Mark Kenny (Fairfax) married to Virginia Haussegger (ABC)
·        Christine Wallace (ABC & Fairfax) married to Michael Costello
(former Chief of Staff to Labor’s Kim Beazley)
·        Annabel Crabb (former Fairfax journalist now with the ABC)
·        Tony Jones (ABC) married to Sarah Ferguson (ABC)
Coincidentally Jones took over the Lateline role from Maxine
McKew (from ABC presenter to Labor politician)
·        David Penberthy (journalist) married to Kate Ellis (Labor)
·        Paul Kelly (former Fairfax journalist) formerly married to Ros Kelly
(Labor)
·        Kerry O’Brien (ABC) former press secretary to Gough Whitlam.
·        Mark Colvin (ABC) married to Michelle McKenzie (Leichhardt
deputy-mayor and Greens Councillor)
·        Denis Atkins (ABC Insiders regular) married to Melanie
Christensen (ABC Canberra)
·        Paul Barry (ABC) married to Lisa McGregor (ABC)
·        The lamentable Mike Carlton (formerly Fairfax) partners Morag
Ramsay (ABC)
·        Andrew Fraser (Fairfax) and Catriona Jackson (formerly Fairfax
and Laborpress secretary)
·        And so the list goes on.

Labor, Fairfax and the ABC are joined at the hip. Much like the
relationship between Labor and the unions.
They’re on the Aussie payroll.
Now you know why Bill Shorten wants to increase your taxes.
To fund the propaganda and jaundiced news.
How do we get rid of their false news about 'climate change' and politics?

indy sorry old mate that says a lot about you
We could share a beer of coffee but in truth you seem to get a bit too easily convinced about some weird stuff
Enjoy while you can
It ends today week

Belly,
Judging by your reply it must have hit a nerve in the truth department !

Thanks for that, Individual,

I'm born and bred an ABC child, my radio is on the ABC now, but that list makes me a bit uncomfortable.

As for climate change, I wish I could get a straight answer to two questions:

1. Has sea-level risen any more than one inch every ten years for the past few decades ?

In Australia, Chris Kenny asserts that, with changes in measurement, etc., the hottest-ever recorded temperature for a capital city (Adelaide, in February this year) was about the same as the previous maximum for Adelaide in 1939. Officially, using different techniques, this year's was half a degree warmer. So my other question is:

2. Is Australia warming faster than half a degree every eighty years ? i.e. one degree in 160 years ?

Surely temperatures in the northern hemisphere (with its much larger land masses, populations and industrial activity) must have risen much more than half a degree in eighty years ? Still, if I were a farmer in eastern Europe or central Asia or on the Canadian plains, I would be calculating how much further north one could grow crops with every degree rise. And therefore how much country would be opening up to cultivation and production.

Half-wits like me can ask questions: are there any bright sparks out there who can answer them ?

Cheers,

Joe

indy not sure you even understood your question leave alone my answer
2.2 million people have voted already
Just think, it will be three million before the booths open

60 Minutes just said Australia's unemployment level is at a record low & wage demands would send many jobs overseas. An ABC News reporter said earlier that the Public Service would definitely put on more people If Labor forms Govt.
I have a huge problem with that because many very low paid workers are deemed fully employed for working a few hours a week. That's just crap that the LNP Govt has ignored. People deserve better.
We don't need a larger public service & most public salaries need to be reduced rather than more on more pay.
So, which of the two is the lesser evil ?

Here's a hint, individual:

When governments reduce the size of the public service, they usually end up hiring consultants to do the work, at much greater cost.

AIDAN,
Yes, I have personally witnessed that & it's Labor Govts that generally do this & I always wondered what the Public servant who is being replaced then does. This LNP outfit has handed immigration over to private agents so, what to these immigration people do instead ?
Considering that 95% of public servants are Labor voters it's not at all surprising some decision-making has to be outsourced in order to keep the ball rolling. Sad but true !
Both parties & Labor in particular strayed too far off their original doctrine after infiltration by half-baked academic "experts" & the results are there to see for all.
The guilt industry is already primed for a Labor Govt.

The economy is not as good as we are being told
As to the question this thread asks?
This morning's polling 51/49b Shorten [still behind] picks up three points in the prefered PM
Morrison lost two
My question is, will we accept the voters choice?
Still think the slanted one sided view will be seen here for ever and ever

The economy is not as good as we are being told
Belly,
That's right, they never divulge the real figures. This is why I believe in a third party controller.
The two majors have been so utterly saturated with parasites that neither of them can ever regain full integrity.
I mean, just look at Darwin Harbour given to the Chinese as well as a couple of airports in WA.
What would happen if Australia wanted to lay their hands on infrastructure in China or Japan or indeed, any other country. This insanity is only practised here & it's only made possible because of the people here being so insanely hung-up on the Dollar ! These are the same people we're forcing to vote.

Dear individual,

I'm sorry mate but to claim ABC and Fairfax bias just because of relationships of the staff is really drawing a long bow. It just doesn't work like that.

Besides the Murdoch press is by far and away the most powerful media organisation in this country eclipsing the ABC and Fairfax by a large margin.

The bulk of its mastheads are stridently LNP leaning and some like the Daily Mail are vociferously anti-Labour. They do not have the rules on balanced reporting the ABC has and just go for it.

By any measure if we were to strip away all media bias the LNP would be far poorer for it.

Time to stop the whinging.

Dear Hasbeen,

If the Liberals hadn't changed leaders at the rate of Labour and if they hadn't doubled down on the national debt that Labour had accrued during the GFC then they probably could have been in with a good chance of holding on to power. But when you act the same as the opposition things like fairness and equity get a chance to get a run and the LNP have been found wanting.

However since you are a man of principle and if Labour do get up you will not be holding your hand out for the $1,000 pensioner dental subsidy every two years.

because of relationships of the staff is really drawing a long bow.
SteeleRedux,
I can only comment on my personal experiences & these include watching nepotism in all three levels of Govt at close range. So, no drawing a long bow here !

If it wasn't for undemocratic compulsory voting, Shorten would have fewer people voting for him. If it wasn't for compulsory voting, preferential voting, and early voting, the Labor party would be struggling. Particularly now, with the Coalition losing so many supporters. The votes of those lost supporters are not going to Labor. Voters concerned about the 'nothingness' of both major parties are likely to be concerned mainly with who to put last - Labor or Liberal.

And, Morrison really shot his bolt for me when he paraded his mother, wife and children at his official kick off. That's worse than Labor's past PMs. This is the same bloke who, last week, was shedding crocodile tears about nasty press on his enemy's mother. 'Don't touch the families', he bleated. Well, pal, keep them to yourself, and it won't happen.

SM if you are right, thank god SOME liberals had enough guts to do the right thing.

I know you lefties would never do anything, no matter how critically it was needed, to reduce their chance of election. Not one of them has the decency to do what is needed, when it may be against their electoral fortunes.

I'm not sure you art right anyway. I know a lot of voters, who would never vote for a party led by such a disgusting bit of garbage as Turnbull. In fact I have heard quite a few say they would not vote Liberal again, as long as Turnbull was a MP for them.

I guess some of them will now vote liberal in the house. A lot less are likely to vote Liberal or Left in the senate. From what I hear, Anning is gaining quite a following around the traps. It will be interesting to see if that actually carries through to the pooling booth.

It appears that anyone who is anti immigration, & particularly middle eastern & African immigration will poll pretty well, if voters put their X where their mouth is.

I suppose I should read more of your stuff SR. I missed this doozey from you, "By any measure if we were to strip away all media bias the LNP would be far poorer for it".

SR lying is not usually very productive, but the worst mistake anyone can make, is lying to themselves. You can not in any honesty believe there is an LNP bias, with our near communist ABC, & most of the other media being far left of centre.

Of course this was highlighted by the medias liking for the lefty ratbag, Turnbull. While he was leading the LNP there was some question of which party was further left.

I find I can't get Foxy to stop believing & even quoting the total garbage one finds in the Guardian, I guess when a lying rag prints the stuff you want to believe you actually like the thing, no matter how bad it is.

You obviously know better, so I guess there is some gravy train of the left you are riding, hence your absurd comment.

AH truth, it matters, hurts some but in the end it matters
Never in my lifetime has the LNP been under threat, because Liberal voters are out to? take Liberal seats
Abbott Dutton Wentworth, all likely Liberal gains, small l Liberal, Large L loss
No easy task when your own party is leading the charge against you

Jo Nova is acting in the national interest by highlighting the apparent madness of Bill Shorten, who shows he is cost-benefit illiterate.

Given that most countries are not adhering to their Paris Accord promises -- excepting China and India which will emit CO2 as usual until 2030 -- and given there is no obligatory, scientific or economic justification for Australia to adhere to the corruptly-agreed Accord, it is pointless for Bill Shorten to 'big note' himself by imposing much higher renewables and emission-reduction targets, implementation of which have been shown to permanently damage the Australian economy and lead to loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs.

Individual:
Labor, Fairfax and the ABC are joined at the hip.

On most issues, you could add the Greens and GetUp! as well.

Dear Hassie,

Thank You for your concern about my newspaper preferences.
I'll try to explain things to you.

I remember the days when we did have quality newspapers
that cared about their product - their editors were
concerned with breaking real news stories that were
accurate and true as could possibly be established.

As Tony Koch - writing recently in The Guardian,
reminds us :

The Australian used to be such a newspaper. A paper that used
to regularly set the news agenda for media throughout the
country.

No longer. No decent editor would put up with the biased
reporting that shamefully the paper now produces on a
daily basis.

It's not just anti Labor, it's anti-Green, or quite
ridiculously anti ABC, it's anti anything except a
story negative to the Liberal or National parties.

And it's not the only News Corp paper guilty of that.
Gone is the requirement for balance - how stupid and
childish is it of the management of these organisations
to fool themselves into believing that what they are
producing is being accepted by readers as a quality
product.

This is a particular pathetic attitude given the
difficulty print media has competing with the digital
age.

Why would an intelligent person want to alienate any
significant portion of the potential readership -
in this case - Labor supporters, Green supporters,
Indigenous people, women, ABC supporters, the list
goes on. Anybody but LNP people - and then only a
portion of them.

Do they really believe Rupert Murdoch directs their
action? It's ridiculous to suggest that he does. That
he rolls out of bed in the morning, grabs his lap top
and checks out the political angle taken by the
Courier Mail and the Australian.

More likely the current management feels the need to
second-guess what Murdoch wants and they think they are
providing that with their unbalanced rubbish.

These newspapers are avoiding their prime responsibility
to be a fearless watchdog on government and society and
to work to ensure that wrongs are exposed and fairness is
evoked for all.

Raycom my thanks, refreshing seeing a conservative thrashing about like a fish on the river bank
Too that poster who shall not be named for the ludicrous view IF ONLY is the reason voters are to turf this mob out
IF only, if only the Liberals had not become two party,s, at war with each other
If only Rupert never arrived in Canberra the very week Turnbull got knife
If only Labor did not run on policy and got down in the dirt as some conservatives have

On most issues, you could add the Greens and GetUp! as well.
Raycom,
If a Dollar is involved you can be assured an Australian is nearby !

Did pre-polls yesterday for The Greens in my marginal Liberal electorate. Nothing was more striking than the divide I noticed between the older well off voters, judging by the cars they pulled up in, and younger voters. The oldies would often go straight for the Liberal htv, most of the younger voters were favouring Labor.

Like many, I voted yesterday, ttbn will be most disappointed, with his demands that the electoral officer ask "WHY YOU VOTING?" Too bad me old cock, there was no question, just name and address. That has been the way of pre-polls for several years now, get used to it lad.

Dear Hasbeen,

Geez you lot are perennial whingers aren't you.

Now you are trying to say the other media are left of centre too. So when you sit down to your daily fare Today Tonight and a Current Affair do you really think 'Damn this is left wing media at its finest'? You would have to be right of Hitler to even contemplate such rubbish.

Let's look at the facts compared to your made up idiocy my friend. This was the breakdown of last Fridays viewing ratings for news and current affairs of the respective stations.

1 SEVEN NEWS Channel 7 928,000
2 NINE NEWS Channel 9 833,000
3 SEVEN NEWS / TODAY TONIGHT Channel 7 829,000
4 NINE NEWS 6:30 Channel 9 778,000
5 A CURRENT AFFAIR Channel 9 573,000
6 SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Channel 7 572,000
7 BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS Channel 7 570,000
8 THE CHASE AUSTRALIA Channel 7 562,000
9 ABC NEWS-EV ABC 542,000
10 HOT SEAT Channel 9 492,000
11 THE LIVING ROOM Channel 10 422,000
12 10 NEWS FIRST Channel 10 406,000

When you add up the viewing power of 7 and 9 the ABC is left in the dark. It has only 10% of the total viewership.
http://tvtonight.com.au/2019/05/friday-10-may-2019.html

You lot are cry babies, claiming victimhood even when the odds are so stacked in your favour, then you go and call those with the temerity to point these things out as liars. Really pathetic.

Now any chance of you coming back with alternative facts and figures to attempt to shore up your case or are you as usual going to bang off a couple of insults topped off with idiotic rhetoric once again?

How about you surprise me.

Steele, don't forget Ronald Reagan was a communists...according to John Hinckley Jr., its all a matter of perspective. I recall watching an interview some years back, with an American extreme right wing white supremacists. The guy was claiming Hitler was some kind of bleeding heart liberal when it came to the Jews, he didn't go far enough according to him, to many got away. The scary thing was, this guy wasn't joking about Hitler, he actually believed it, and was being serious. rrrrrrrrrrrr.

Hi Paul,

Reagan a one-time communist ? I don't think so, he was a major instigator in the attempts to expel Jewish writers and actors and producers from Hollywood from the mid-forties- remember the Hollywood Ten. And he was right up there in full support of McCarthy.

Ah, you're being sarcastic ? Facetious ? Satirical ? Ironic ? Sorry, it's wasted on a half-wit like me.

But while we're on the topic, if we imagine a Right-wing spectrum 50 % to one side of the ideological mix, then Reagan would have been up there in the 90+ % band. McCarthy, I think, was just an opportunist, but certainly part of the Right and using it to promote himself, perhaps to President. Of course, he had a strong rival in Gen. McArthur at that time until Truman sacked him.

Cheers,

Joe

Never heard anyone say Ronald Reagan was communist
Hear a few question his parents wedding
Dreadful bloke in the end he had a sad end to his life

Belly and Loudmouth,
I think Paul's point was that there are people in America who regard everyone they disagree with as communists.

Ronald Reagan was, of course, never a communist. Politically he started out on the left, but when he was in Britain and saw what the Attlee government was doing, he shifted to the right where he remained ever since.

Thanks Aiden admit it went over my head but true
A tip, Labor polling is saying in some not Labor electorates Shorten is as popular as scomo
Saw in that school shot yesterday the young love him
While I have already voted [the greens got my preference in both houses]
First time in decades in my area the greens will man my booth and many they have not done before

There is a lot of misinformed comment about Sky News.
When they have a discussion panel almost every time they have someone
from the Labour Party or other left wing organisation.
Regular left orientated panel members are Nicholas Reece, 1 hour show weekly,
Graham Richardson, Kelly ex NSW Labour minister, a lady whose name I
cannot remember, Stephan Conroy, Conroy and Michael Kroger(lib) have a
regular weekly one hour session. There are others whose names I do not
know but it is absolutely certain that there is no mirror image on the ABC.
Graham Richardson has his own one hour show each week and he appears
with Paul Murray almost every day.
For those who do not remember Graham Richardson he was a minister in
Bob Hawke's and Paul Keeting's governments.
He was famous for the saying "Whatever it Takes", in that do anything
political so long as it helps the party.
The only time the ABC has a Liberal on their programs they are there
to play the part of Aunt Sally.
That is not a complete list as many I do not know their names, but it
is true that they do present strongly a Liberal, conservative line.
Presenters such as Peta Credlin and Andrew Bolt are such but they
often have lefty orientated people on their segments.

No Joe, as I said according to John Hinckley Jr., Hinckley attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan in 1981. In his record of interview Hinckley claimed Reagan was a Communists and that was justification for the attempted assassination. You might not believe it, I might not believe, but John Hinckley Jr. believed it. Maybe he was a little bit wacko, what do you think? As far as I know he's out and about theses days.

Bazz, mate, we are both getting a bit old but gee, sky/fox is a propaganda factory
Rupert just bailed Fox out with a 300 million gift, and will probably pay another 200 million within a month
Judge both by their viewers/customers
And do not forget their numbers
Goebbels would be proud of them both
But even Rupert must face the fact they are on the nose and he can not forever bail them out

Dear Belly,

I wrote on another thread that Bill Shorten
has long been under-estimated. He wouldn't make it as
a unionist, they said. Yet at the age of 31 he became
Victoria's Secretary of the Australian Worker's Union
in 1998 and National Secretary 3 years later.

He wouldn't survive the cut and thrust of political
life, they said. Yet he won pre-selection and a seat
in parliament and he was a more than effective
parliamentary secretary and minister during the Rudd -
Gillard years, spear-heading the creation of NDIS.

Against all odds, in 2013 Shorten won a ballot against
Anthony Albanese to lead the federal Labor Party.
As Opposition Leader he saw off two PMs - Tony Abbott and
Malcolm Turnbull. Shorten has now been Labor leader for
longer than Paul Keating, Kevin Rudd, or Julia Gillard.

In just a few days Bill Shorten might well be Australia's
31st Prime Minister.

Foxy yes you know my form, I take the big stick to those in my party I name rats in the ranks
You too, saw me speak of knowing Bill first as senior union delegate, then as an official
Bill like me, came from the AWU side in a merger that saw the Iron Workers virtually takeover
[We are one again] for a while it nearly fell over, that merger, Bill held it together
He will be confronted by a hostile senate, may/probably will, be forced to call a double dissolution election in his first 18 months
By then the constructed lies about him will have failed, not however the rumors without substance
This government always neglects policy in favor of mud when its back is to the wall

Dear Belly,

I had little idea of Bill Shorten's background.
I am becoming more impressed however, the more
I learn about him. I guess it just goes to show
that we should not pre-judge people. It's their
actions that will matter in the case of the
Prime Ministership - as well as the policies
and their implementation. Bill Shorten is a
good negotiator from what I've read - so he
should be able to implement the policies that
have been put forward - for the good of the
country.

I wonder if the pro-Shorten crowd will support him when the taxes start hiking upwards ?

Indy, are you in favour of Morrison's action of allowing two confessed mass murderers into the country. Because the Americans said we had to take them. Morrison is keeping Australia safe, what a joke! Maybe the Yanks will take Ivan Millet and Martin Bryant off our hands in exchange, not bloody likely!

Dear individual,

You really don't get it do you. There are not too many people I know who like or even trust Shorten. They perhaps dislike him less because of his efforts during the campaign but he has the feel of an Abbott, you know the type, a train wreak looking to happen. He may well surprise me, I hope so, but your side of politics have made it very difficult for people to trust you. Disunity to match the Labour Party of old, doubling the debt without the excuse of the GFC, and utter inaction on climate change.

Just as the Labour Party was responsible for Abbott so your side is responsible for Shorten. Hope you are pleased with yourselves.

Hi Steele, as Belly can attest, I was not a big fan of Bill Shorten when he took the Labor leadership. Over the past six years I have come to see him in a different light, a man with a vision and I believe will make a worthy Prime Minister.

My wife is a good reader of people, and the last six PM's have left her cold, but she warms to Shorten, saying he is an honest man with good intentions. She has gone as far as recently joining the Labor Party, so who am I to argue. I"m still with the Greens, Labor don't love me.

p.s I might have that Labor lady wearing a green shirt on Saturday.

Morrison's action of allowing two confessed mass murderers into the country
Paul1405,
I tend to believe that those who let them in were more than likely Labor supporting public servants, not Morrison. The Public Service is so heavily Labor that this Govt finds it necessary to contract immigration work out to agents !
I mean all they had to do is time for this year to surface !

Indy, you have to stop having those thoughts, you'll go blind. ScumO' assures us that only those of exemplary character are allowed into Oz, he and Dud Dutton are ever vigilant, busy keeping our boarders safe! It seems that also includes mass murderers getting in, its my understanding these two persons of good character have admitted to hacking to death eight tourists with machetes. When questioned last night as to the whereabouts of these two fine gentlemen, ScumO' was able to pin point their location as being somewhere in Australia! maybe living next door to you Indy. For the PM "The buck stops here!" blaming some faceless PS is a cop out

Well its only one more sleep, and this bunch of clowns are gone. Hopefully.

BTW Its Coalition policy to sack thousands of hard working Public Servants after the election. That should see the unemployment rate rise to 10%. You'll be pleased Indy.

Shallow at best indy to blame anyone other than Dutton for this act
He turns kids living in this country away at the drop of a hat
But lets his mates bring girls in to look after their kids
How could anyone vote for this government

More to the point, why would anybody vote for that hypocritical leafblower motormouth Morrison and his gang of rejects and not expect another three wasted years of infighting, backbiting and dodgy financial handouts?

Anybody who votes soley on the basis of personality or the colour of a tie and not policy deserves the government they get.

Bill Shorten has to wear the tag UNION but are we blind?
Scott Morrison and his team are this country's biggest UNION
The UNION for the rich and powerful

With the timely death of Bob Hawke, Labor will win this election with a clear majority of maybe six to ten, with those sympathy and nostalgia votes.

So I don't know why some of you Labor supporters are getting so hysterical about trivia. Who cares about blowflies like One Nation or UAP or Shooters' and Farters' Party ?

Stock up with Doritos and stubbies :)

Joe

Joe, Anther election on Monday, me thinks there is going to be a blood bath in the Liberal camp on Sunday, maybe they could get your sympathy votes. Crass, the timely death of Bob Hawke. Four million have voted already before that news. The election has already been decided its just a matter of counting the votes.

Paul tonight's defeat will bring about open warfare
Such fun
Yes we will win today but in the end after the bloodbath if the Liberals dump scomo, they have form for stupid acts,they dump their best performer
Scomo never going to vote for him but well done

Errr, counting chickens before they are hatched ?

Errr, Chickens an counting come to mind.

Paul,

Considering your pontificating on your political nous it is clear that your credibility is completely shot.

Bill has fallen on his sword before the caucus could fired him.

Australia decided that it couldn't afford labor and didn't pick up the bill.

Belly,

You are right, last night's defeat will bring about open warfare. And yes it is great fun.

Now we have backbench Bill and a battle between the far left Albo and Plibersek and possible the damaged Chris Bowen

Advise to Conservative, do not fall into the trap of bragging about the Election outcome. Concentrate on the opportunity that has been granted to this Nation to make us a better society !
Now, the real test is on, don't blow it again ! Remember a chap called Abbott ? He was handed the key to this Nation on a platter & what did he do ? I'm praying that Morrison is more grown up. All the signs are there that he is.
I was really surprised at the lack of tantrums from the Labor side at the ouitcome. The only one with a visible pi$$ed off expression was Barry Cassidy. Even Leigh Sales was a 100 times less vindictive than her normal self. I think she sensed very early that her bread is butterd on the other side now !
Please Scomo, don't do an Abbott. Do as you promised, put people first. Good luck !

Realistically, votings about 'supporting the lesser evil'

Therefore, anyone who believes Shorten to be the lesser evil compared to his opponents will support him.