Hasbeen,

Think of it as jobs.

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I still think managing the rise of globalism is far more achievable than stopping it

Answer3- At least you seem to support the idea that slowing the rise of globalism is desirable. In that at least we agree. But I'm sure you wouldn't agree- even though I believe it follows- that Nationalism being the opposite of Globalism is "the embodiment of the policy of slowing the rise of globalism". So I would say that even Belly seems to be adopting Nationalist views despite his claimed identification. Being Nationalist is a broad concept- most countries in the past were Nationalistic. I believe that with the founding of the UN certain correlating factors and the rise of certain organisational influences led to the concept of Nationalism being denigrated

Posted by Belly, Saturday, 20 April 2019 3:51:27 PM

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CM never doubt many you brand socialist think just as I do
We however are not socialists

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I didn't actually call you a Socialist at least in this case. I said you were a Social Liberalist otherwise known as a Social Libertarian. If your policies are Social Libertarian you are a Social Libertarian what ever you claim to identify with. Multiculturalism is a Social Liberalist policy if you support it you are supporting Social Liberalism. Socialists and Communists use Social Liberalist policies as shock tactics as Trotsky advocates in his permanent revolution. So Social Libertarian's and Liberal concepts generally seem to be the tools used by Communists to direct their "Useful Idiots". Marcuse and others of the Frankfurt school are interesting case study's of the link between Communism and Social Libertarianism. The movement that led to links between Gay society and the Workers movement saw the strengthening of the Liberalist nature and the power of the movement. Some would say this was good for workers others would argue it detracted from the core aim of the workers. The arguments that I've heard seem to talk about the class warfare of Marx hence the links with Communism. Of a slight tangent the "class warfare" argument is similar to the "they came for the gays but I wasn't gay" Jewish/ solidarity argument.

However your accusation is probably valid as I believe it is somewhat irrelevant whether a person is a Communist or just a tool of the Communists.

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The lurch to the right, powered by refugee/migration has seen the once average now branded extreme.

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Not sure what you are saying here.
But I think this has been covered elsewhere.

If the Christian church lived by it's claimed principles it would never build these great edifice in the first place.
Hasbeen,
My sentiments also !

Yes. We have overlooked the indulgences of the church hierarchies - building great edifices and amassing wealth - in times when most people lived miserable lives in abject poverty; when churches had a lot of authority that they misused, by and large. Things are better in the 21st. Century, but the huge sums required to refurbish Notre Dame could be better used for other purposes.

Besides, given France's Godless indulgence of Muslims within its borders, the thing will probably be totally destroyed by the end of the century.

Geoffrey Luck, in Quadrant Online 21/4, smells a rat in the smoke of Notre Dame. He thinks that people don't need to be addicted to conspiracies to be surprised at the speed with which authorities declared the fire to be “an accident”; “involuntary destruction by fire” ( there's a new one!).

A month ago, arson was committed on the church of Saint-Sulpice (several hundred million Euros of damage”. “At the same time”, a mediaeval abbey north of Paris was vandalised. It contained the tombs of kings, and that of Charles Martel, who “ended the Muslim invasion of Europe …. a Tours in 732”.

The church 'Notre-Dame-des-Efants in Nimes was looted and desecrated with human excrement. There is a link there with another Christian defeat of Muslims.

Nine French churches were damaged in 11 days. Luck writes that there appears to have been a “coordinated attack across France that WAS NOT MENTIONED in the mainstream media or by the politicians responsible for the mass immigration lf Muslims.

875 French churches were vandalised last year.