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Just as an extra note:

The losers of capitalism, those who 'didn't get the job';
- Did so because they were lacking is some kind of skill that the successful applicant had.
With that in mind the 'Socialist Base Level Employment' idea needs to include a provision to help people increase their skills.

You do this with 'Training credits' similar to working credits;
but 'training credits' are used to spend on updating or increasing your work skills.

I want to reduce the cost of training new skill by putting as much learning that can be done by app, on app;
So that all you'll need to spend your 'training credits' on is 'testing' when other people (and equipment) are required.

The bigger idea is that people who chose take take part in the employment model gain skills and money that help them get back into the capitalist (normal jobs) system with better skills to succeed in this system, and the work they do also provides more capitalist opportunities within the nation and for them to do so, whilst reducing stain on the welfare cost unto the economy, and having a system that is fairer and more economically sustainable.

By the way, this employment scheme would not be compulsory.
Its based on 'providing an opportunity to help oneself' not 'punishment for failure to meet set requirements'.

Those are my 2 'big' ideas.

Create a fair and economically sustainable system for employment;

Create a media environment that holds journalists and media accountable for what they write and keeps them honest.

If we did these 2 things, we'd change everything.

Many will think an active Labor member and past union official should not think like this
But I do and think we can get a better world out of it
Every unemployed person who is fit should work for social sercurity benefits
Including jobs for country workers in places no jobs exist
Fair wages but not overr the top, to leave reason for all to find higher paid work
Work must not compete with or take existing jobs
And may not be used as free labour for businesses
Work, clean river edges and remove unwanted trees in them
Build tourist camp/picnic sites
A backpacker trail around this country
Bike riders included and horse riders too
Assist pensioners with fire wood lawn mowing and usful things
We can and must think out side existing bounderys

Hey Belly,

"Every unemployed person who is fit should work for social security benefits
Including jobs for country workers in places no jobs exist
Fair wages but not overr the top, to leave reason for all to find higher paid work
Work must not compete with or take existing jobs
And may not be used as free labour for businesses"

I considered many of these issues when I originally thought out this plan a couple of years back.
If we can't lower the cost of wages, then the only other way we can make the country more competitive lower transport and energy costs.

The 'thing' that I settled on to provide these jobs is building national infrastructure.
Now I'm not sure if its a particularly good idea or not;
But what I thought of would be to build the Aussie section of China's Silk Road.
That being a 'straight line' HSR connecting all Australian capital cities, plus an eastern inland route.
'Bring the country to the city and the city to the country'
- I figure 400kmh trains should get you 250ks inland in 45 mins.
- Close enough to live in the country and work in the city.

Then I want to build a new national highway alongside it.
But withing this HSR and highway I also want water, electricity, gas, internet.
All built into it like a 'national conduit'.

When they're building roads and infrastucture there's so many jobs that could be done by unskilled.
Even after the jobs finished they'll spend 3 months planting trees.
There's no reason you can't turn all that land clearing and earthmoving into jobs, and mass training opportunities.

When its done I want to build on that, with big factories in every state where workers assemble relocatable homes straight off a production line, and shipped via the new road / rail network.

Build solar farms anywhere along the network, adding them into this national grid, move water from one dam to another and generate power from the water flow, etc.

Each idea, builds on the earlier one and tackles a different problem.

Armchair Critic while we have some ideas in common I can not support a scheme that takes jobs away from current paid workers
It defeats the whole purpose of the employment scheme
Current jobs must remain
However the work I see is in fact nation building without taking existing jobs
Nothing however to stop inland water conservation or returning water inland becoming part of the scheme
My point is existing business and jobs should not be chalenged by the proposed scheme

Hey Belly,
"while we have some ideas in common I can not support a scheme that takes jobs away from current paid workers"

I don't want to impact on normal jobs or the normal job market in any way;
That said, don't think the current work for the dole system doesn't impact on the normal job market already.
For example, if people are mowing and whipper snipping nursing homes etc. doesn't that take away from jobs that legitimate businesses do.
What if these nursing homes are privately owed?
Are they not gaining a benefit from this unpaid work?

Lets go back a bit.
Firstly why pay $250 week for someone to do nothing;
When you can pay $500 and get a full time worker?
Double Dole for full time work doing things to help the government save money with the hope that the work they do offsets their entire $500 cost - therefore reducing the $250 week liability to zero.

Lets say I wanted to end the 'I can't get a job excuse' and replace it with a system of 'the job you have when you don't have a job'.
How do you create half a million jobs of meaningful value-adding work that span the entire country?

The only thing I can come up with that fits that bill is a national infrastucture project spanning the entire nation that could not otherwise be done without a lower wage cost.

Therefore it doesn't take jobs away from anywhere, and also creates normal jobs too.

Lets say we plan the project and realise we need 10,000klms worth of road and track. Then you cut that into 10,000 1 klm projects, and everybody either side of the line works on their small section.

Work need not be confined to 'travelling distance of the project';
With the relocatable homes factory idea, it will start off as assembling 'dongas'.

We're going to need a lot of construction material for concrete and we can get it by forcing miners to clean up mine sites; and sending people there to work on site to get whats needed.

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When you build a road, it opens up country to more business opportunities.
Creating a system where you have 'the job you have when you don't have a job' safeguards human usefulness.
It ensures that humans can always create an environment for growth and new jobs.
It also gives people an opportunity to prevent themselves from going backwards or into a downward spiral when they fall on tough times.
- Which reduces the need for social programs to deal with people who've fallen on tough times.

Think of the money and emissions saved in aviation if you have HSR running from renewables like solar, wind, power generators in the train wheels feeding back into the grid?

(note I also support building thorium reactors to add low cost energy into the grid as well)

Why spend money policing welfare?
Just give those who don't want to help themselves the bare minimum and give those that do want a job and to help themselves an opportunity with double the unemployment benefit.

I may stand with the right generally, but there are a few leftist issues I support.

If we have free education and healthcare than we need free jobs to pay for it all.
That's the reality of the bigger picture.