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Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 11:49:29 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
You are correct, or if they do think of Israel it is not in a favourable light given that only the more fundamental types agree with the Israeli treatment of the Palestinian people. It also instructive to see Israel topping the list of countries earning a "High" score of government restrictions on religious freedom. It places them above countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan and the UAE. http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/06/19152148/APPENDIX-A.pdf And New Zealand was fourth last over all categories yet this is where an far right-wing activist chose to make his point. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 12:32:43 PM
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Whether or not Christians give two hoots about Israel, it is not relevant to the the persecution of Christians. My support of Israel has nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism. And it us bugger all to with the topic.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 12:58:25 PM
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Hey ttbn,
"What is your basis for this claim?" Really? I'm not sure that remark is worthy of a response. I didn't think I had to explain the bleeding obvious. "Is this claim relevant to the topic?" Yes, I believe it most certainly is. "Does this OK persecution of Christians?" Yes, it certainly seems to. Let me ask do you and / other Christians; (that is if you identify as one) - understand the relationship between actions and consequences? That is, that actions have consequences. Are you familiar with this logical concept? Now I know Christians are pretty dumb. Anything more complex than that of a Year 7 student is too hard and they have a propensity to 'Leave it up to God' and put on evangelical music instead. But here's what I see: 1. Trump gets voted in with the help of Evangelicals. 2. Trump supports Israels Zionist foreign policies including wars on behalf of Israel. 3. Israel and US neoconservative wars include arming Islamic terrorists. 4. Armed Islamic terrorists kill middle eastern Christians. - Actions and Consequences - Christians support Trump; Results in: Christians being killed. Christians are so dumb they're willing to let their actions and support result in the killing of other Christians; for their blind support of Israel and the deranged glee they feel from Jesus's 2nd coming. You support Israel. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical / ironic / talking out of both sides of you mouth when you whinge about persecution of Christians, but your blind support of Israel results in exactly the same thing; - No different than if you took a knife and slit those fellow Christians throats yourself? Get it now? Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 1:01:01 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
This is another aspect of religious intolerance which I'm not sure got picked up in the Pew report. "It is a criminal offense for Jews in Israel to marry in weddings performed outside the state’s religious authority, and doing so can result in a jail sentence of up to two years. Hiddush ranked Israel as the only Western democracy that is on a par with Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states in relation to freedom of marriage." Wikipedia. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 1:07:09 PM
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Armchair,
It will probably surprise you to learn that runner is not typical of Christians! If you weren't as dumb as you wrongly assume Christians to be than you'd know that persecution of Christians has long predated Trump running for president. Christians generally don't unconditionally support Israel. Millions of Christians opposed trump. And most of those who supported him are more likely to have done so because of his stance on abortion laws rather than anything to do with Israel. Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 1:19:44 PM
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"The problem with Christians is that by and large most of them support Israel unconditionally"
Rubbish, most Christians hardly ever think of Israel; and as there are about 2.2 billion Christians I rather think that my statement has more chance of being true than yours.