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Budget exposes Coalition’s fake immigration cut

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Hasbeen said we need to increase the anti-immigration senate vote. At this stage I'm willing to endorse any candidate that has a track record against high immigration including One Nation. Given that the Liberal Party has a high proportion of Conservatives in their ranks I think that they are a better bet for the lower house despite their history of immigration policy under Howard in the nineties.

Fraser Anning as I understand is trying to form a party so people can vote anti-immigration "above the line" rather than the "below the line" treatment that independents get.

Sadly most voters vote above the line- this tends to favour parties rather than independents.

http://aec.gov.au/Voting/How_to_Vote/Voting_Senate.htm

I suggest that the voting public prepare their vote by checking online for candidates before going to the voting location.

At the last election I was able to get a sample ballot sheet on both of the electoral houses in my electorate and mark them out with my preferences beforehand.

In voting as you all surely are aware the lower the number on the ballot sheet the higher the vote. So "1" is the highest number or highest number depending on how you look at it- numerically or politically.

Never apply your preferences based only on any parties "how to vote sheets"- there are complex reasons why they are written and are probably not in your interest. Eg. Liberal Party preferencing Labor over One Nation for perception over policy.

I vote below the line and mark all the boxes (there were over 60 on the senate). I mark the top 20 candidates- then the bottom 20 candidates - then fill in the middle. I check the policies on the web for unknown candidates.

For my top 20 "friendly" preferences I usually put the ones listed at the top of the party with the lowest number (unless something in their profile indicates otherwise). For those bottom 20 candidates I put them in reverse order so the more experienced "enemy" candidates get an even lower ranking than their own junior "enemy" candidates (unless something in their profile indicates otherwise).
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 5 April 2019 10:23:06 AM
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I expect to see the election announced by the 15/04/2019 in less than two weeks time.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 5 April 2019 10:25:46 AM
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More immigrants the better - especially millionaires with much needed skills.

Good for economic growth.
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Hi Canem Malum

I'm guessing ScoMo, on Sunday 7 April, will announce the Election for May 11 or 18.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 5 April 2019 4:12:16 PM
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Bringing millionaires into a country doesn't make the country richer it just makes the country more vulnerable to opportunists.

I've heard it said that in India Tax is sort of voluntary- there is a lot of corruption- at one stage 50% of government spending was said to be lost to corruption. Perhaps the Australian Immigration regime turns a blind eye to this sort of illegal behavior because it happens in another juresdiction. It appears that the Australian Immigration is facilitating money laundering by allowing black money into Australia.

I'm not sure that unscrupulous law breaking opportunists are a good basis for a healthy nation.

I remember recently that an Ethnic Indian purchased the Whyalla Steel Works in South Australia. I'm concerned that this will have a big impact on the community. Yes there is a short term benefit for the seller of the Steel Works but I'm not convinced on balance that there is a benefit in the medium term.

I think one of the reasons for the failure of the Steel Works is perhaps red tape- something that an Ethnic Indian can circumvent by hiring Ethnic Indians and using perhaps black money to refinance the operation.

It's an easy thing to bring in liberal free market foreign investment for Australian Companies and financially beneficial for the sellers who leave the community but not for the communities which potentially see a large change in the ethnic structure of those remaining in the community.

There seems to be a common trait of extreme liberal free market business people that move into a community set up an ambush and then the community is faced with the fallout of the ambush. The communities have a right to stability but it seems that they have no power to stop the unstable influences. There doesn't seem to be a balance between the rights of the long term occupants of the community and the business investors.

If the business instigators were British Australian's perhaps the impact would be less- despite the injustice.
Perhaps even Ayn Rand would condemn many of the practices of these businesses
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 6 April 2019 8:08:54 AM
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I don't think that Australia can compete directly with large nations such as China and India. We need strategic partnerships with the US and the UK in high value goods. Perhaps Australia's economy is only keeping recession away by selling land to foreigners and low value added minerals. We need to be more self sufficient.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 6 April 2019 8:11:58 AM
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Canem Malum being more self sufficient is a pretty big call today.

In 1970 I set up local production of solid brass chrome plated water saving items for a local company. These had been imported from the US for some time.

In 1996 I organised production of new versions of these items to our design in Taiwan. We had been making them here but found we could get them from Taiwan, [probably made in china], finished chrome plated, in a box with our name on it, with our instructions included, delivered into our store, for just under a third of what the raw material brass cost us in Oz.

I hated doing it, but it was that or be put out of business by competitors who did.

That brass was probably made from our copper & zinc exported to China. How the hell can their brass be so much cheaper than ours?

We were once saved by shipping costs, but today with container shipping it is now so cheap, it offers us no buffer at all.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:18:57 PM
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