Dear Paul,

Thanks for that.

I guess the pattern of protecting the church has been
set by its record.

We shall have to wait and see what develops after
the Pell case.

Is Mise,

Give it a rest - you're beginning to look
silly.

Ise nmise that dead horse will never run
Right now world wide, the Church is in the spotlight for acts of true evil
Even against its Nuns
Only open full on clean out can save the Church, and that seems unlikely as defenders continue to pop up

Foxy,

"BTW - you told me in the article discussion about Pell -
that the jurors in Pell's first trial found him 10-2
for acquittal. In actual fact the first jury did not
acquit Pell. They could not reach a unanimous vote for
acquittal or even a 11-1 majority verdict. So you
see he was not in any sense cleared by the failure to
reach a verdict."

No one said that he was acquited but you asked how anyone knew what the jury vote was and then gave the figures.

Run and hide in your den!!

Dear Is Mise,

You are being thick again.

If someone hasn't been acquitted then it is perfectly reasonable to assume the vote to acquit was neither unanimous not 11-1 or else he bloody well would have been acquitted!

Issy, talking tough about executing paedophiles when you know that is not going to happen, is different from looking for outs to defend the Catholic Church from accusations of inaction. You don't have to be in on the Arch Bishops Thursday night poker game to read reports of the frustration of victims, and paedophile victim support groups at the Church's lack of action, particularly regarding the recommendations of the Royal Commission into Child Sex Abuse. The man in Rome, or the man in Sydney, can moralise all they like, they can offer all the comforting platitudes to victims they wish, but until real action is taken by the Church hierarchy they are nothing but words without meaning.

Steele,

Are you as thick as Foxy?

No one said that he had been acquitted but Foxy asked how anyone knew that the vote was 10/2 for acquittal.

The fact that she mentioned the figure indicated that she knew and I gave her a link to a discussion of the 10/2 disagreement.

Now I'll say it again, people knew that the jury vote was 10/2 because it was publicised, it was not a secret.