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Individual,

Sorry mate, but I am opposed to conscription unless there is a state of war, when both males and females would be called up, unlike the discriminatory males only practice of old. As well, I think you will find that the military does not want the responsibility of trying to straighten out brats who are already beyond the pale by the time they are 18. Young people, mores, values and beliefs have changed so much since conscription was acceptable that reintroduction of any form of conscription in peace time would be a recipe for disaster; and politicians know they would never get away with it.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 4 February 2019 7:30:22 PM
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ttbn,
I'm against conscription too but that's not what national service is about. National service is education, much needed education before adulthood.
I'd like to see people pull their weight & get satisfaction from doing so. There's nothing worse than not having a sense of belonging and/or achievement such as has been sold out by Whitlam & Co in exchange for the votes of those who'd lost that sense of belonging.
It's the removal of that service that has put a stop to the development of culture in white Australia.
Posted by individual, Monday, 4 February 2019 10:47:30 PM
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Individual- I'm not sure that Ttbn has experience in the military so it could be a hard sell. I'd have to go back over previous posts. Or perhaps ttbn's objection is more that the military could be damaged by bringing disruptive people into the organisation. The reserves would probably be sufficient to do what you are suggesting and give people a sense of discipline and cohesion- but there are many sources of fragmentation now compared with 40 years ago- many divers-ive groups. In the military you are expected to fit in and act as part of the team- otherwise you get to do pushups or spend time in a cell. Teamwork seems to be sadly lacking but is necessary for any group activity. Individualism needs to be adjusted for the best interest of the team goals in certain contexts- the advantage of rules is that it's not just you that has to obey them- without approapriate rules there is no freedom. You can be free to pursue your individuality in your own time. Individualism is different than having individuality one is an ideology the other is healthy. Too much individuality in a team creates chaos- losing the benefits of working as a group. A good team produces more than any individual could produce on their own- a bad team produces less than an individual can produce on their own. What sort of team is Australia?

In old times those that controlled resources could not run away with them after they had exploited the community- as they were dependent on the community- they wouldn't be accepted in another community- the resources may not have been in a readily movable form such as gold. You can't run away from your family or your culture because it's always in your heart
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 2:53:10 AM
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Mass culture damages identity- lonely in the crowd- alienation- psychopathy. People need tribes. There needs to be a balance between the level of the world and the level of the family- If all power is held at the level of the world there is tyranny. That's why Communism (and mass Capitalism) is a psychological disease. Monarchy is a hierarchy of families- Conservatism is similar- with similar duties- power and duty.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 2:53:53 AM
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In reference to the original topic of the thread...

The most important policy in the world is population- in Australia it is immigration. Multiculturalism has failed- just as the leaders of Europe have said- it just creates complexity- and disenfranchises Australian's from Australia- and draws idiots to the bright lights of novelty. Some diversity of thought is useful- too much is confusion. Focus is important.

Australian's need to vote for anti-immigration senators in the senate as a first step- then we need to demand pre-selection of anti-immigration representatives in the major parties and penalize parties that refuse.

Immigration is a tax on Australian's- it dilutes our cultural ownership of Australia.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 3:13:11 AM
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Canem Malum,
What so many people now don't get is that this lack of discipline is actually the cause of so much dysfunction. The perception of many is that being in a national Service is all about killing . They don't seem to grasp that it is about social cohesion & aptitude & literally finding themselves. To hide yourself away in this digital & entitlement cocoon is a trap as soon as reality hits. All it needs is power outages for a week & these people will be crying for help. The lack of social skills has already made them targets or rather victims on their social media.
Somebody trained in a National service would acquire the mentality to deal with such nonsense instead of just bleat bullying.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 7:24:21 AM
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