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Australia's Mania For Unreliable Energy Following Germany To Disaster

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The Australian political class is following Germany on the transition to green energy. The Germans have spent half a trillion euros over 20 years to achieve what? They have doubled the price of domestic power. They have seriously destabilized the grid. They have not reduced CO2 emissions since 2009. The grid staggers on the brink of collapse, and intervention is necessary over 100 times a year: turning off wind farms, and bribing other countries to take excess power when the wind is strong. The owners of the windmills are still paid when they are not producing, putting up the prices to consumers and taxpayers even more.

Germany is failing to reduce emissions, which is supposed to be the reason for having unreliables. There has been no reduction in emissions since the year 2009, despite their ridiculous claims of a 40% reduction by 2020.

We cannot expect a different result when we are doing the same thing.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 7:45:49 AM
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We are not doing the same thing at all. Germany is replacing nuclear with renewables; Australia is replacing coal with renewables. The economics are also very different, as Australia is a much sunnier country than Germany.

Germany's grid is hardly "on the brink of collapse" - they've upgraded it (as we have ours) so it is now very reliable - but it looks like they need to follow our lead and build some big batteries.

And can you please dispense with that idiotic notion that renewables are synonymous with unreliables? Victoria's blackouts were the result of a coal fired power station breaking down!
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 9:51:55 AM
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I have come to the conclusion Aidan that you are not the most stupid person ever to debate renewables, you are someone defending your stupid investment in them, & your seat ion the gravy train.

No one could talk so much crap without having a financial interest in the subject.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 10:23:37 AM
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Looks like it may have come from here.

Australia on the German green energy road triple failure

A draft of a script for a video to follow Wind Wont Work that is being revised for recording with a teleprompter and some other improvements.

Australia is following Germany on the transition to green energy.

What have the Germans achieved in twenty years, spending half a trillion euros or more?

They have doubled the price of domestic power.
They have seriously destabilized the grid.
At last report they have not reduced CO2 emissions since 2009.

We are clearly determined to go down the same road although we still have a long way to go. On a good day their windmills and solar farms can produce most of power they use.

But still they have failed on the three sides of the energy policy triangle. Price, Energy Security and CO2 emission reduction
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That is the official word from 6th report on the progress of the energy transition.

That is the German Trifecta of Failure.

The picture tells the story. CHART TO BE DISPLAYED. They claim significant progress on CO2 emission reduction since 1991 but the gains came first from cleaning up the rundown socialist infrastructure in East Germany after the Fall of the Wall.

And then from reduced industrial activity during the Global Financial Crisis.

Nothing to do with the green energy transition. No change since 2009.

The story began in the 1980s when the German Greens became a political power and climate change became an issue.
In the 1990s the Greens had enough influence in the coalition government to achieve a comprehensive Renewable Energy Act in 2000.

REST OF ARTICLE see link

http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/01/29/australia-on-the-german-green-energy-road-triple-failure/comment-page-1/
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 10:30:45 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

How is it going old cock? Good?

I see you are up to your old form. Attacking a bloke and impugning his motives because there was not a single bloody thing he said that you could challenge like a normal person.

For all you bluff and bluster you really are a pretty unsubstantial fellow aren't you.

Look, all you have to do is show a modicum of effort in addressing any of the points he made. Give it a try mate, you might even learn something. I do whenever I take the time to dissect someone's arguments.

Otherwise all you are left with is the label 'blowhard'.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 11:02:30 AM
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How China and INdia must be laughing at us making fools of ourselves and destroying our own economy by bowing to the the Green religion. Maybe just maybe people are waking up to then scam.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 11:22:06 AM
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