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Why violence is a mindset issue

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Even way back, maybe as far as pre history men have treated women badly
Not all not only men, but it seems a wish to own or control is in our DNA
Much of us is from the first days out of the caves, some few hopefully,never quite understand both sexes should have the same rights
Posted by Belly, Friday, 25 January 2019 3:30:19 PM
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In international terms, the United States is an
extremely violent society, with a homicide rate
far exceeding that of any other industrialised
nation. A single American city like Chicago, Houston,
Los Angeles records more murders in a typical
year than does the whole of England. Most countries
severely restrict private handguns - in the US
there is a widespread access to handguns. One reason
is the persistent belief that, since criminals have
guns, law-abiding people need them for self-protection.

Actually, gun-owning households are much more likely
to suffer fatalities from their own weapons than from those
of outsiders. One study showed that only a small
percentage of all slayings in gun-owning households were
for self-protection. The remainder were suicides,
homicides, or accidental deaths, almost all involving
family members, friends, or acquaintances.

The proliferation of handguns is the belief, deeply held
by many Americans, that gun ownership is an individual
right.

For granting this liberty to the individual , American
society pays the price in the deviance of those who
abuse it.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 25 January 2019 3:34:31 PM
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Posted by Foxy- The proliferation of handguns is the belief, deeply held by many Americans, that gun ownership is an individual
right. For granting this liberty to the individual , American
society pays the price in the deviance of those who
abuse it.

Answer- Power needs to be held low in the hierarchy to enforce their own authority against that of hierarchical globalized and nationalized power. This is a balance- however imperfect. Man has the power for great evil and greatness. If the government acts with force against the people they need to be in a position to counter this force.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 25 January 2019 3:59:30 PM
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I see the issues with gun violence in the US as relating to specific US character. But I would need to analyse Foxy's comments in more detail. What is the population of the US cities vs UK population, ethnic makeup, the way police manage drugs, comparision of gun to knife violence, etc. Sea borders as with the UK are often more manageable than the US land borders. Traditionally the UK is perhaps seen as more Conservative than the Free Trading Liberalist US.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 25 January 2019 4:08:07 PM
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In my experience, the desire to dominate in a marriage is not only consigned to the more physically robust male, as many would have us believe. I've seen some quite large, very imposing men, cower whenever their diminutive wife makes a request or even gives them an order.

Some wives sound like they rightfully belong on a parade ground, the way they clamour and bellow at their more physically formidable spouse's. Even the hubby's size and physical presence, doesn't seem to deter them in any way.

Not that the request might be unreasonable, instead it's the way it's given, often in a very abrupt or curt manner, with a total absence of 'please' or 'thanks.' While it's right, men are generally the culprits in matters of domestic violence, it's not quite as lopsided or cut 'n dried as you might think? It's my belief, men often strike their partners, out of sheer frustration, unable to sort out their problem(s) quietly and reasonably.

As an aside - when a female does 'lose it,' the results can be catastrophic, with some terrible injuries occasioned to the husband. Sadly, in such circumstances, an ordinary DV matter quickly escalates to one of Attempt. Murder. Easily understandable, given the size disparity, between the man and his wife. And perhaps the many previous assaults, at the hand of a ruthless, violent husband. No woman should 'ever' be subjected to that type of cruel treatment from a man, for whatever the reason(s).
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 25 January 2019 4:35:04 PM
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//If the government acts with force against the people they need to be in a position to counter this force.//

With their crappy little handguns against the might of the 'Murican military machine? Not even a snowball's chance in hell... the depth of some peoples self-delusion is astounding.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 25 January 2019 4:37:44 PM
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