Rikki Lambert, Australian Conservative candidate for South Australia, has rejected female 'quota nonsense’ in favour of merit, reminding us that the most successful female politician, Margaret Thatcher, also rejected it - as did Angela Merkel.

Lambert criticised Liberal women for going along with the 'socialist’ penchant for preferring quotas to merit in the selection process.

Well, isn't it this quota nonsense that caused all the incompetence within the public service ?
I recall when working in remote communities how every contractor had to have a certain percentage of indigenous workers on the payroll, no matter what ?
The cost of every project to the taxpayer went up because those wages had to be recovered somehow.
Same goes for the women content. If a woman is competent & a great many are, then they should get the job on merit not just "qualification" or gender.

Yes, individual, the quota nonsense is the cause of much of the incompetence in government departments and in parliament itself. It will do the same damage to the private sector where business leaders are getting on the bandwagon of political correctness and regressive politics.

Hold the presses!

So a male Baptist god-botherer is against female quotas? Well blow me down with a feather.

Lol.

Ouch. Lol.

I think it is pretty clear the OP thought Rikki Lambert was a woman as he compared 'her' to Thatcher and Merkel.

Very bloody amusing.

Look at what quotas has done to the Labour party! We are very slow learners.

We have a by-election next month, thanks to Labor shafting one of their own unfortunate to be a middle aged white male who has done well by his electorate despite being a Laborite.

The Labor candidate is, of course a woman; and the best she can come up with to introduce herself is:daughter of immigrants whose 'first home was in the area' (where does she live out of the electorate?):the parents instilled in her the importance of a strong work ethic.

Who's standing, the woman or her parents?

“Ouch. Lol.

I think it is pretty clear the OP thought Rikki Lambert was a woman as he compared 'her' to Thatcher and Merkel”.

Where is it suggested that Rikki Lambert is a woman, gonzo? Lambert uses Thatcher and Merkel as examples of women who did not need quotas to get them where they were, but did it on merit.

Rikki Lambert , known personally to me, is a male. That's the second time you've made a jackass of yourself with in a week.

Anyone ever tried a quota of competent people ?

Individual,

Don't think so. Australia's selection of candidates is one of the most undemocratic in the world. America's, with its primaries, is the most democratic.

Any self respecting woman would hate being appointed to a job on the basis of filling a quota instead on competence.

Fortunately for labor self respect or competence is not required. Hence Juliar.

runner, the Catholic Church has a quota system for priests 50% male and 50% rock spiders, its exceeded all expectations. See quotas do work.

ttbn; the Australian Conservatives are also doing very well with their quota system, their aim to have 50% of candidates being Slugs has well and truly been exceeded, it running at 100%. (I read their profiles).

It's much easier for the Greens: there is very little difference between the males and females.

Bill Shorten is the one really slobbering over the women. In 2016 he said, “No more budgets for blokes …. I firmly believe that if this parliament did NOTHING ELSE in the next number of years but advanced the march of women through the institutions of power: in the workplace, in unpaid work, in family law and economic equality IF WE DO NOTHING ELSE in this country as a whole in the next fifteen years but install women to a place of equal treatment in our society, we will be a richer, more prosperous country with the prospect of a bright future”. Not much point in the “blokes” voting Labor then.

Unfortunately for Bill, surveys show that most women want to stick with the traditional girly occupations, but he will probably still get more female votes than male votes, particularly if they have been university brain-washed, and there is always the growing cohort of single mothers who will get more of other people's money under Marxist Bill.

I live in a safe Liberal electorate. Our federal Liberal
MP has been in that seat for close to 28 years. He's
probably one of the oldest Members of Parliament. With
Federal elections coming up in a matter of months -
it would be great if the Liberal Party would give another
person a chance at pre-selection for our area.
One can only hope. It would be great to have a more
vibrant person who actually cares about the people in his
electorate and listens to their views. This guy is just
warming his expensive seat in Parliament.

I'd settle just for a change - male or female. They could
not be any worse than what we currently have. It's time
to shake the "boy's club"up a little - and put them to
work.

Hi Foxy,

There is a perception, and I think it's a valid one, that the conservative side of politics is an 'old boys club', Kevin Andrews personifies that image. Most conservatives, as opposed to liberal thinking people, still view women in a "traditional" roll, barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen. To these conservatives, men are still the movers and shakers of the world, woman are "equal" but different in a different way, "Please dear, be a nice pet, and make us fellas a nice cup of tea while we discuss the next all male mission to the Moon.". You know what I mean, a quota system to these old timers would be nothing more than 50% men, the real decision makers, and a 50% mill stone of ditzy women. Until thinking changes at the very core, nothing is going to save the conservative side of politics.

Hi Paul,

We've had some very capable women in Parliament.
Some very qualified professionals who have
contributed a great deal and hopefully will
continue to do so. Julie Bishop comes to mind.
Hopefully with time things will change as the
"boy's club,"begins to get more frayed around the
edges and new blood enters Parliament. We need
people who enter Parliament with the sincere will
of wanting to make a difference. We don't need any
more party hacks, careerists, or seat warmers.

'runner, the Catholic Church has a quota system for priests 50% male and 50% rock spiders, its exceeded all expectations. See quotas do work. '

coming from a supporter of the Greens! Its a wonder they even know fiddling with kids is wrong.

runner,

I'm not aware of any "Greens" being investigated by
the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse.
Do give us some evidence. Otherwise you're again
talking through your ...

'I'm not aware of any "Greens" being investigated by
the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse.
Do give us some evidence. Otherwise you're again
talking through your ...'

I am not aware of any INdigeneous or Islamic Imans being investigated by the Royal Commission. You really are naïve Foxy and that is being kind.

runner,

Blame it on my religion.

Foxy,

True, but some of them do enjoy a bit of sex in the Defication and Urination Conveniences.

Patriotism is now considered racism.

Communists are similar to Conservatives in a way- Communists believe that they are democratic because everyone is part of the party- Conservatives believe that they are democratic because women are part of the family.

At least that's the way Conservatives are presented.

The fact is women and men are different and fill different roles in society. We don't know how this is embodied in nature and nurture- though some Liberals claim that everybody is equal- Conservatives believe in a competitive selection process- Conservatives believe that leaders should have certain characteristics- perhaps that includes time served in the military. In ancient times land holders were male because they had to be capable of defending the land. In a boxing match women will tend to be outmatched by men. Women tend to be nurturers and not as aggressive. Aggression can be negative and positive for survival of the tribe. Conservative Traditionalists use this natural society as a touch stone (different than Locke's Liberalist "naive view" of natural society- all men are equal). In tribes the strongest is valued and is considered an important element in the tribes security- Conservatives share this view perhaps. The strongest member also needs the tribe. Animal societies are the same.
The dominant animal is usually the largest male- there is significant risk in being the largest male- constant challenges to their authority - and benefits including their choice of mate and food preference.
Female members of the tribe contribute based on their disposition. Many of these things are somewhat hard wired into the brains of all species depending on their development. Humans do have the capacity to reason- and override their physiology- with some risk

In a confrontation the common reaction for animal females is to capitulate to the male- also with beta males- usually sexually. This would present a problem in human politics- when the fate of the community is at stake- it is a simplistic comparison but emphasizes the danger.

I plead the Socrates defence "I don't know" but Jordon Peterson's solution is for the system to embody "equality of opportunity" not "equality of outcome". For son's, father's, husband's it make's sense to value the input of "value added" feminine input for the strength of the family. This is the challenge to modern women to create value in the family- to make the family stronger more stable to increase it's survival- with power comes responsibility.

If a person is capable they will be given additional responsibilities.

Leadership is a duty not a right.

The burden of gender role is difficult for males and females- there are benefits and duties. I have my duty- and I respect my ancestors- I hope I will honour them by my effort. Life is suffering- the wiser we are the greater our capacity for suffering- we shouldn't be led down the path of nihilistic pleasure seeking to relieve our suffering- pain shouldn't divert our duties.

There is Nobility in Traditional Conservative Duty.

I am not aware of any INdigeneous or Islamic Imans being investigated by the Royal Commission. You really are naïve Foxy and that is being kind.
runner,
isn't that a tad naive on your part ? As if these groups would ever be the target of a Royal Commission !!

that's exactly my point Individual. Strangely enough I left the Catholic church decades ago while Foxy still claims to belong. The Banking RC certainly did not target greedy investors who made a choice to gamble and lost. Royal Commissions seem to be very compromised.

I'm having a look through this now.

https://www.conservatives.org.au/our_policies

//I (runner) left the Catholic church decades ago// According to Catholic doctrine, which was related to me by a Catholic authority figure, Sr. Mary in the third grade, those who leave the true faith (Catholic) are doomed to burn in hell for eternity, which is a rather long time. So runner, not to be to judgemental, or put to fine a point on it, you are a gonner son! Gone, gone, gone. Unless of course you find true salvation through the Holy Father in Rome. So what's it to be, hang out with the evil protestants, or get back with the good guys.