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Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 2:24:20 AM
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He's pushing in the conservative direction. Sounds good to me.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 10:53:53 PM
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Islam is not a faith I like
It is not a faith I believe is based on a real existing God For that reason, for my truly held belief Gods are mans invention It should have no power to control any ones life or interfere with any government Here we begin to differ Racism is purely evil some Muslims are racist, some WASPs are racist Some from any race or creed are racist We need only look at the history of Americas south to see in the lynching of THOUSANDS of African Americans racism is blind hate Nothing good can come from any form of racism Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 5:31:51 AM
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What was done that was racist? Nothing was done that was racist. Austria wasn't hating Islam or Arabs. He exiled Muslims that didn't want to intagrate into his country. That's a smart move.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 7:09:58 AM
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I cannot imagine our own cowardly political class doing the same thing. They would prefer us to be dhimmis.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 9:56:35 AM
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in my view an informative must read
this days SMH story on how out of touch we are in politics and numbers of Muslims in this country Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:57:46 AM
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Belly -Why do you post rubbish.
Here is a link to SMH, there is no article like you say. http://www.smh.com.au/ Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 12:45:45 PM
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Labour rely heavily the muslim vote.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 12:49:56 PM
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Check your mattress.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6544133/Desperate-migrants-hiding-MATTRESSES.html Desperate migrants are found hiding in MATTRESSES strapped to a van roof in an attempt to reach Europe from Africa. This is the extraordinary moment two migrants emerged from inside mattresses during their bid to reach Europe from Africa. The sub-Saharan men were arrested after border guards found them at a check-point between Melilla, a Spanish enclave on the north African coast, and Morocco. It is understood to be the first time the method has been used to smuggle migrants and there are fears criminal gangs could increasingly use the tactic, according to Spanish media. Men in Guardia Civil uniforms can be seen using a knife to cut through plastic wrapping and fabric after lifting the mattresses from the roof of a van. Two men then emerge from inside as guards watch on in the footage, which was shared on the Twitter page of Spanish senator Jon Inarritu. Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 12:50:58 PM
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Belly was right about the article as I read it myself.
Can't remember the percentages except the uK 6%. Repeat this after me:-Islam is NOT a race ! Islam is NOT a race,got it ? As I mentioned the other day I am now more than halfway through the book History of Jihad from Mohammad to ISIS. Very enlightening. On another post most of you were arguing about whether communists or capitalists killed the most people. Well they were weak beginners compared to the muslims. In India especially they killed by the tens of thousands a day. 500,000 people were killed in one part of India over a period. They only killed in the thousands in the Middle East, but over their occupation of Spain tens of thousands were killed and sent into slavery over hundreds of years. They still trade in slaves in case you had not heard, so fancy a nice blonde girl from the next Jihad campaign ? Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:46:30 PM
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runner if you found that highlighted story read it
You would KNOW Muslims number about three percent of the population Sir how can that number living in just a few seats,make any impact laughable old mate but sad too Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:48:08 PM
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Philip S RUOK?
Bazz found it I went back after that post to look for it but it was gone Bazz confirms my statement Now for you,running a lot of posts and posting very long posts I note as is your right it is my right to see some threads as not worth the effort Phil RUOK? hope you get a kick out of blindly insulting others too getting it wrong far too often Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:54:39 PM
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Belly Quote "Phil RUOK? hope you get a kick out of blindly insulting others too getting it wrong far too often"
Delusional, I have just gone back and had another look it is not there. http://www.smh.com.au/ Since your are NOT OKAY, Bazz can you post the link. Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 4:57:28 PM
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Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 5:37:27 PM
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The Chancellor has luck on his side with people supporting sanity.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:14:56 PM
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Hi Belly,
"in my view an informative must read this days SMH story on how out of touch we are in politics and numbers of Muslims in this country" - Please, don't even mention it if you can't post a link to it - If we all cannot look at the article ourselves why even mention it. Tip: Go to history and search for the article; Or go to your address bar and type in some keywords; If you remember what news website the story came from (say abc, australian, news, or smh for example) Firstly type that in; Then press spacebar; If you remember one of the keywords in the story headline; - say for example 'warren' for a story about Elizabeth Warren; Or 'hypersonic' for a story about Russian hypersonic missiles; Then type that in as well and you SHOULD find your story. - BUT ONLY IF 'previous websites you've visited' display beneath the address bar (browser options) And so, by clicking a new tab, and typing in 'abc warren' I find a story I read earlier. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-01/elizabeth-warren-plans-to-run-for-us-president-against-trump/10676718 Or by typing 'news hypersonic' I found another story I read earlier. http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russian-hypersonic-missile-scientists-arrested-accused-of-treason/news-story/83c9381b58311a3ca4fc2f603be3d8fb You can probably find the story by using a single keyword, but knowing two words is better. If you do this you will easily be able to find stories you read months ago, so long as you don't delete your history and can remember the basics of the story. Add the link to your comment, and preview AND test it first before you click 'Post Comment' * DON'T FORGET TO REMOVE THE 'S' in 'https' (The S stands for 'Secure') http://techwelkin.com/understanding-the-components-and-structure-of-a-url - Otherwise please don't mention it if we can't look over the article in question ourselves. Not trying to be hard on you (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year etc.) It's just that it's kind of annoying when an article is mentioned without there being a link to it. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:21:41 PM
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Belly Quote "Phil RUOK? hope you get a kick out of blindly insulting others too getting it wrong far too often"
You deserve to be insulted, for your sheer ignorance. Now go to the SMH website now look at it the site is sometimes continually updated during the daytime, so the articles you see there now may not be there in say 5 minutes or an hours time. Also for the ignorant the page you see today will not be the same tomorrow. So anytime after you read the story it could have been removed because it was wrong or a lot of other reasons, even just as simple newer more important articles were put up. If you have not worked out by now what I say then you are very new to the internet or just plain naive. Go back to any comment where you did the same in the past gee no story. If I get something wrong say something, don't try and pretend that you have found Things I have gotten wrong as you say often, if not put a sock in it. Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:44:20 AM
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I think he is needed in Germany.
Dozen Injured By Rampaging Migrant Gang In German Town. At least 12 people were injured, many hospitalized, when a gang of migrant teenagers embarked on a violent rampage in the center of Amberg, Germany. The attackers, young men from Syria, Afghanistan, and Iran, began viciously assaulting and harassing pedestrians and arriving travelers near the Amberg train station, even throwing one man down a flight of stairs, according to eyewitnesses. Their first victim, a 13-year-old boy, was kicked in the stomach before they began calling a 17-year-old girl a "hooker" and beating her companions when they intervened. "Uninvolved people, including a father with his 5-year-old daughter, tried to escape, but were caught up, thrown to the ground, beaten and kicked," PI News reports. Another victim, 17, told Bild, "They cursed one of us as 'n*gger' and struck immediately. We wanted to run away, but they caught us at the traffic light. There were at least six people. Three of my friends were beaten. I was beaten down and kicked." Four suspects who were "already known to police" have been arrested. Mayor Michael Cerny, who has previously expressed his gratitude to groups orchestrating placement of 'refugees' in Amberg, delivered a brief statement on the attack, effectively warning constituents against allowing it to taint their view of 'asylum seekers.' "Of course, it should not be generalized, but on the whole these idiots have done a disservice to the peaceful and dedicated asylum seekers," Cerny wrote on Facebook. http://europe.infowars.com/dozen-injured-as-migrant-gang-terrorizes/ ** Love the Mayor's comment - warning constituents against allowing it to taint their view of 'asylum seekers. ** Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 1:35:28 AM
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Philip S lets look at your baseless charge of false links from me
YOU understand I never posted a link? Still, [while never having a problem other than here, failing to get the OLO take the s out right] YOU posted that link Now Bazz, with no reason to support me other than truth read it, and TOLD us so Can it be you did not read his post YOU do your self no good in falsely charging others Question to sound contributors, can not take the s out before cut and paste, is in done after posting link here Please understand my PC skills are limited my thanks for any help Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:13:35 AM
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tp://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/aussie-property-market-facing-the-moment-of-truth-20190102-p50p8k.html
See failed again, Bazz mentioned in a thread that we are near true financial problems Not sure this was the thread But sure he was very right and the attempted link adds to my concern What if we go to the ATM and can not withdraw our funds It happened in Greece Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:32:19 AM
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“Labour rely heavily the muslim vote.”
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 12:49:56 PM They certainly do. Many of the dead beat ALP electorates are riddled with Muslims. Muslims are not supposed to believe in democracy or voting. However, as part of their takeover plan they are using democracy against us. Labor is all for big immigration and open borders to illegals, who eventually obtain citizenship and the right to vote – votes which Labor knows will support them. They just love Muslims. Too stupid of course to know that the Muslims will do to them what they will do to the rest of us when they take over, which they will if the current immigration lunacy continues. It's a toss up between Muslims and the Chinese as to who gets the prize. Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 3 January 2019 7:21:43 AM
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Anyone see the core of the problems yet ? You should, you've had a thousand years of evidence and, many years to look the problem in the eyes ever since the mirror was invented !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 3 January 2019 7:56:01 AM
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I was concerned to here about the Indian Sanjeev Gupta takeover of the Whyalla Steelworks- my limited view- they acted as if he was saving Whyalla- but he'll just fill it with Indians- and the previous owners have sold out to global profits.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 3 January 2019 8:09:21 AM
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Belly Again you show you lack of comprehension and you read things that are not there.
Quote from you "Philip S lets look at your baseless charge of false links from me YOU understand I never posted a link?" Stupid I never said you posted false links (you see things that are not there, you have a lack of comprehension ) I stated "Belly -Why do you post rubbish." ** This was your rubbish because when people go there it is gone. ** Quote "in my view an informative must read this days SMH story on how out of touch we are in politics and numbers of Muslims in this country" _______________________________________________ What bazz found we don't know for sure if it was the one you say you saw. ** BUT you yourself prove I am right **, OPEN YOUR EYES activate your brain and read what you wrote. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:54:39 PM Quote "Bazz found it I went back after that post to look for it but it was gone" GEE notice your words "I went back after that post to look for it but it was gone" BI, that article could have been withdrawn a few minute after you read it. Now after reading above anyone with half a brain can see I did not as you say "falsely charging others" Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 11:38:29 AM
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Philip s do you own a mirror
take the time to look at you threads/posts SOUTH AUSTRALIA,S steel works was saved by workers taking wage cuts The BRITISH OWNER of Indian DECENT has not flooded it with 457 visa holders blind bigotry on display here Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:48:55 PM
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Next door, in Germany, Frau Merkel is now saying openly that countries have to be prepared to relinquish their sovereignty!
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:56:25 PM
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Dear Philip S,
Well you did provide a link this time instead of cutting and pasting the story without attributing it. But what a link. My god, Neon Nettle? A fake/junk news site running conspiracy nonsense? No wonder you can't pull your arguments together when you are feeding yourself a diet of this kind of crap. He is a story about Obama covering up 'Hillary's child trafficking crimes'; http://archive.li/r5bnN And here is one doing deep analysis of a photo supposedly dressed as some kind of satan; http://archive.li/PCNwV And I thought Armchair Critic had it bad. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 3 January 2019 1:16:06 PM
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Belly What a load of rubbish you post, what idiot is going to go back and look over hundreds of post to find something that I don't even know what you want me to find.
Quote "blind bigotry on display here" Why are you changing the subject from your accusation to me to something else. I will gladly discuss your accusations after you admit you were wrong. You are an idiot, who is just to stupid to admit he made a mistake and will not admit it. Get it through your head the article you asked people to go and must see was gone, you even admitted that. Even the patience of Mother Teresa would be tested if she had to deal with you. Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 1:22:42 PM
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SteeleRedux What are you dribbling about.
** To you everything that it is not in agreement with what you think is fake, if it comes from a site then it is a fake/junk news site according to you. ** Congratulations you have provided two links that are 6 month old to fake news that in no way proves that every article published on those sites is fake news. Two fake articles 6 months old if that is all you can come up with as opposed to the hundreds of newer articles I call that an epic fail. Definition of a TROLL, some who claims a site is a fake/junk news site but can only come up with Two fake articles 6 months old. Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 1:42:59 PM
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Philip s wrong? I can build a case for you slagging me off then retracting your words in an effort to do it again
Wrong SR reveling your reading list proves you are what you appear to be a badly informed ranter Phil over estimating your own ability's and under estimating your opponents is? folly Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 January 2019 4:30:12 PM
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Belly You are beyond the most naive person on here.
Quote "I can build a case for you slagging me off then retracting your words in an effort to do it again" ** Then do it. ** Quote "Wrong SR reveling your reading list proves you are what you appear to be a badly informed ranter" ** He did not reveal anything just because someone posts a link from one site does not mean they regularly go to that site, the link may have come from another site. ** Quote "Phil over estimating your own ability's and under estimating your opponents is? folly" ** the proof of your education level is in your post. ** Quote "Please understand my PC skills are limited my thanks for any help" ** If you don't know how to do something why don't you get someone to show you how to do it? ** Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:25:03 PM
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Belly
Why do your repeatedly refuse to admit you were wrong, Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:57:46 AM You wrote. "in my view an informative must read this days SMH story on how out of touch we are in politics and numbers of Muslims in this country" Approx 12.45am I went to the site to read the article, which was not there. Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 12:45:45 PM After not finding the article posted this comment. "Belly -Why do you post rubbish. Here is a link to SMH, there is no article like you say. http://www.smh.com.au/" Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:46:30 PM claimed he saw the article but did not say when, it could have been around the same time you did. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:54:39 PM You wrote. "Philip S RUOK? Bazz found it I went back after that post to look for it but it was gone Bazz confirms my statement" ** AGAIN read your own words "I went back after that post to look for it but it was gone" ** ** Try to comprehend the timeline above. The article was there according to you BUT it was withdrawn possible just after you and Bazz saw it. ** If you had the brains to post a link people may find your articles, Get it through your head those pages can change on an hourly basis, so no one will be able to find things you say "in my view an informative must read." Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:13:35 AM You wrote. "Philip S lets look at your baseless charge of false links from me YOU understand I never posted a link?" ** I never said you post links ** Also NO ONE is questioning you and Bazz saw the article what is in question is the fact that the article was withdrawn soon after you saw it, so no one else got to see it, whereas if you posted a link it may still be there. Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:29:04 PM
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Or we'd have a dead link - '404error not found';
And at the least, others could confirm it had been a working link to an article previously. Gotta agree with you Philip S. - If it's not too much to ask ALWAYS POST A LINK - Please. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:46:01 PM
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Dear Philip S,
Now you are just being infantile mate. You wrote; “Congratulations you have provided two links that are 6 month old to fake news that in no way proves that every article published on those sites is fake news. Two fake articles 6 months old if that is all you can come up with as opposed to the hundreds of newer articles I call that an epic fail.” Just listen to yourself. Reputable sites do not do fake news full stop otherwise they wouldn't be deemed reputable. They obviously make mistakes but when those are revealed they then post retractions along with apologies. They also do not engage in unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense like this; Journalist Dies Suddenly Just Days After Exposing Mueller, Strzok 'Cover-Up'. 26-year-old Federalist reporter and Fox News pundit killed by 'sudden illness'. http://neonnettle.com/news/6089-journalist-dies-suddenly-just-days-after-exposing-mueller-strzok-cover-up- There is absolutely nothing these guy produce that should be taken as factual without extensive checking elsewhere. Don't feed us this tripe and expect to be ever taken seriously. Further Queen Elizabeth is apparently a lizard person. Just another piece of top notch journalism from this crowd. Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 4 January 2019 12:33:43 PM
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I remember seeing an article where the German Leader Merkel, the UK Prime Minister, and the French Prime Minister discredited Multiculturalism. This seems like the wedge in the road to rationality.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1355961/Nicolas-Sarkozy-joins-David-Cameron-Angela-Merkel-view-multiculturalism-failed.html http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8685-sarkozy-joins-cameron-merkel-condemns-multiculturalism But why are some still saying that those against Multiculturalism are evil. Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 4 January 2019 3:35:04 PM
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But why are some still saying that those against Multiculturalism are evil.
Canem Malum, Because many evil-seers reside in those incredibly harmonious cities where the multiculturals' enclaves so warmly embrace the culture & Laws of the hosts & ensure the hosts' taxes are properly distributed. Those against Multiculturalism blatantly try to disrupt this perfect system. Such baddies those anti-multiculturals. Posted by individual, Friday, 4 January 2019 7:57:05 PM
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Hey Canem Malum,
I don't know the answer to that question; But I found these articles of the same leaders supporting the ousting of Assad and Ghaddafi. http://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/01/01/how-the-war-party-lost-the-middle-east/ http://www.france24.com/en/20160311-obama-cameron-sarkozy-libya-mess-gaddafi-france-uk What made them go from openly opposing multiculturalism, to supporting the cause of the resulting migrant masses that soon followed? Something doesn't seem right. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 4 January 2019 8:49:24 PM
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Individual- Thanks mate I stand corrected. Stupid of me to think anything else. ;)
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 4 January 2019 8:50:18 PM
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Armchair Critic- Sorry I reached my 20 post maximum- so I couldn't reply.
Comment- "Something doesn't seem right" Answer- Yes- I agree. But not sure why. I suspect you do... To tease out the issues. There's the "Lockerbie disaster" issue with Gaddafi, but he was also a Communist, Nationalist. The Syrian's are Ba'athist which identifies with Socialism, Nationalism, Secularism. Perhaps it's the Nationalist Socialist bit that conflicts with certain elements in the Socialist Elements in the US. Strange how close ideologies often conflict. Also anything Nationalist/ Localist is likely to conflict with anything Globalist such as International Socialism or International Capitalism. Interesting that the Socialists supported the anti-globalist Wall Street protests (anti-global-capitalist protests)- this is what Deneen calls "supporting your own form of Liberalism". Similar things happened during the Iraq Gulf War(s)- when Sadam Hussein was removed both chaos and immigration ensued. Ironically the Ba'athists being Secularists are probably closer in ideology to the West than the Persian's as well as historically being Western allies. There's the oil of course- critical for global business- but damaging to the environment. The reliance on oil only increasing with world population increases. The problems with our energy infrastructure cannot be (but often are) underestimated- as Elon Musk says "we have to solve this problem"- but though I respect Musk's work- I have to side with the Malthusian view in this case that "the power of population is too powerful for technology". The only fix is one that fixes the population. But this is a "necessary but not sufficient condition". Even with a population fix a technology fix will be required to address the various energy supply issues. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 5 January 2019 7:25:24 AM
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So in summary- the issue seems to boil down to a combination of- Globalist Ideology both in the Social and Market sense (both Democrats and Republicans)/ and Energy-Mining Politics.
Saying it another way- the elites appear to be influenced by the Liberalist Ideological/ Resourcing/ Unlimited Growth (which themselves conflict at some levels) but the hidden opposition (and the wider conflict) is the public and their nature and the wider natural context. At some stage you'd suspect that nature would have to win out- but I could see mankind and nature itself becoming twisted and unrecognisable from the conflict. So finally- it seems that the conflict comes down to Liberalism against the Conservative Property of Nature Itself- nurture against nature- change against stability- chaos against order. ;) I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that again Armchair Critic the solution is unashamed Conservatism over Liberalism. :P "It's all a ... joke. God help us all." Edward Blake- Watchmen. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 5 January 2019 7:28:09 AM
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Armchair Critic- "What made them go from openly opposing multiculturalism, to supporting the cause of the resulting migrant masses that soon followed?"
Answer- I'm still not satisfied I answered your question. The problem?? They didn't seem to see the second order effect coming. Perhaps the leaders are torn between the public and ideology. There appears to be an underlying issue with the way problems are analysed without factoring contradictions. Maybe leaders should be "project managers". In another perspective- with statistics and maths modelling interesting (incorrect) results can occur with a failure to recognise dependent variables. Perhaps these are the reasons for the apparent contradictions with the leaders. But this is rightly or wrongly the nature of democracy- leaders need to rely on advisers and the public- who have their strengths and weaknesses. The solution?? Perhaps this is what Alexis de Tocqueville means by "Democratic Despotism"- with mass democracy there seems to be "a loss of the empirical" inherent in smaller more local forms of government. It relates to the "too big to fail" issue. There are some streams of society that seem to have turned against the concept of democracy- because of structural issues- I wasn't sure what they meant by it- but with research I've learned that they seem to believe that by keeping things local society can function using public consensus- meetings and such- sort of a conservative form of anarchism. In such a regime you could imagine that there could be concensus within families- given the concensus within families- a small number of families could cooperate on larger projects. This seems to be similar to the pre-industrial model of society- given it's been tested before it should work- but it's been tried and failed before. Not sure why? Perhaps through lack of discipline. Some religious communities function well on this model. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 5 January 2019 8:16:13 AM
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Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 5 January 2019 8:43:30 AM
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Hey Canem Malum,
"They didn't seem to see the second order effect coming." They try to say that but I'm not sure that explanation is reasonable or not. "The problems with our energy infrastructure cannot be (but often are) underestimated- as Elon Musk says "we have to solve this problem"- but though I respect Musk's work- I have to side with the Malthusian view in this case that "the power of population is too powerful for technology". The only fix is one that fixes the population. But this is a 'necessary but not sufficient condition'." Had to look that up - 'Mathusian Trap'. http://www.thwink.org/sustain/glossary/MalthusianTrap.htm Seems reasonable enough... - In modern times 'Post Industrial' does Energy as a value replace Food? - And one thing that came to mind in regards to population growth; - What are the statistics for growth rates in western countries? - I'm pretty sure that growth rates in western countries were historically reducing anyway, and so it seems as though western nations want more immigration for growth which is needed to service national debt. Does servicing increasing national debt promote an artificial need for population growth? Gotta ask the question - would there be any need for any of the global scaremongering campaigns if western countries were just left to level out population instead of allowing immigration to bolster growth? I think we can do heaps better with energy as Musk says. - We just need to think and go about it a little differently - For example why aren't there more water wheels along creeks and other water flowing infrastructure? Why don't houses have more little wind generators on them? The government should bulk buy a billion dollars worth of this stuff, (container loads not assembled) sell to citizens at cost and have 'work for the dole' help install it'. Instead of whippersnipping show them how to install a water wheel or turbine and generate power for a community, make them learn to do something to inspire them that's useful. My theory 'We're not trying hard enough and we're lead by government incompetence'. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 January 2019 10:53:31 AM
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Armchair Critic- Thanks as always for your feedback.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 5 January 2019 9:49:26 PM
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Armchair Critic- The only reason I focused on the Energy issue is because it's relevant to the relationship between the Middle East and the West. Food is relevant to world population but this is not specific to the Middle East.
I'm sure increasing National Debt is a factor but immigration would create a debt spiral. We probably would be wise to address the underlying cause of the debt. I like water wheels and turbines they're in the Megawatt range. In Australia turbines could be a good source of energy given we live close to the sea. The issue with renewables is storage as discussed in previous threads. At this stage this storage problem is the deal breaker. But I would like to see more communities that are self sufficient and self managing so this means having local infrastructure- rather than "big utilities". Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 5 January 2019 10:04:20 PM
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SteeleRedux Congratulations you have now provided two links that are 6 months old, and 1 more recent as well as two alleged articles with no date or link, to fake news that in no way proves that every article published on those sites is fake news.
You get the same reply another troll received. SteeleRedux You attack the source of the article rather than discuss the contents. Where an article or topic originates from is totally irrelevant to the forum, we are here to discuss the topic you can't do that so attack where it came from. This thread was approved by a moderator, so you want to set yourself higher than the moderator and say threads can only come from certain news sources approved by who? You (Don't make me laugh) I post threads here for people to discuss not for idiots like you who want to troll, out of the last 10 threads under General Discussion 6 of them I started 4 were by others. ** By your warped logic none of them should be here. ** I would like to remind people where they are, notice near the top of this page. The Forum On line opinion's article discussion area. Maybe in future you will remember that. Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 5 January 2019 11:50:30 PM
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SteeleRedux Fake news by MSM.
The mainstream media is the primary source of the most harmful, most inaccurate news ever. Isn’t it ironic how the mainstream media has the nerve to lecture everyone else about “fake news” when they are the primary source of fake news on a consistent basis stretching back years? The most harmful fake news is routinely published by the mainstream media. They are the main progenitors of fake news. – The fake news that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq was involved in 9/11, dutifully regurgitated without question by the mainstream media, resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, thousands of dead and injured U.S. troops, and the destabilization of an entire continent. – The fake news that the rebels in Syria were “moderates” who did not have jihadist sympathies and should be supported led to the destruction of Syria, Libya and the rise of ISIS. – The fake news narrative that the media was balanced in its coverage of the presidential election was completely obliterated when Wikileaks emails revealed that countless mainstream media reporters were in bed with the Clinton campaign, feeding them debate questions beforehand and conspiring with Hillary’s staff to portray her in a positive light. – The fake news that George Zimmerman was obsessed with Trayvon Martin’s race before the altercation that led to Martin’s death was accomplished by means of NBC deceptively editing an audio tape. This incident stoked racial tensions across the country and laid the groundwork for the violent ‘Black Lives Matter’ movement that was to follow. – The fake news that produced the “hands up, don’t shoot” narrative, which was proven to be completely fraudulent, led to riots, violent attacks and looting in Ferguson, Missouri, as well as numerous other U.S. cities. Even after the rioting began, the mainstream media continued to legitimize the unrest. Fake news outlets continued to parrot the “hands up, don’t shoot” narrative even after it was proven false. Con't Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 5 January 2019 11:58:23 PM
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Con't
– The fake news that saw innumerable people accused of rape at college campuses across America, claims that were proven wrong, ruined people’s lives and perpetuated the myth (fake news) that one in five women are raped on college campuses. – The fake news that George W. Bush served dishonorably during his time in the Air National Guard was broadcast by CBS News with the aid of fake documents. In circulating this fake news, CBS tried to influence the 2004 presidential election but only ended up crucifying their own credibility, leading to Dan Rather’s resignation six months later. – The fake news that NBC anchor Brian Williams faced enemy fire while helicoptering into Iraq in 2003 was exposed when soldiers who were aboard the helicopter blew the whistle on his lies. Despite admittedly putting out fake news, Williams still has a career in broadcast journalism. – The fake news narrative that Donald Trump somehow represents the next coming of Hitler has provoked a hysterical anti-Trump hate crime wave across America, with people and property being attacked on a routine basis. The same hysterical fake news narrative was also responsible for violence and riots at Trump events throughout the campaign cycle, as well as assassination attempts on Trump’s life. – The fake news that Donald Trump had no chance whatsoever of winning the presidential election was proudly pushed by countless mainstream media outlets, with the Huffington Post even predicting that Hillary Clinton had a 98% chance of winning the presidency. When this fake news narrative was completely demolished on November 8, it swept away trust in political polling and the mainstream media to an even greater degree, prompting the backlash that you now see with the corporate press calling everyone else “fake news” when they are the real fake news. Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 6 January 2019 12:00:56 AM
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Stupidity & vindictiveness joined forces with lack of integrity & that trio made up the nucleus of the left.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 6 January 2019 12:10:05 AM
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Interesting one.
Indian MPs pass contentious citizenship bill that excludes Muslims India's lower house passed on Tuesday legislation that will grant citizenship to members of certain religious minorities but not Muslims, sparking protests in the country's northeast. The bill covers select groups -- including Hindus, Christians and Sikhs -- who moved from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan and who have lived in India for at least six years. Muslims are excluded, in what critics say is a transparent pitch by Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi to voters as India gears up for elections due by May. The legislation, which still needs approval in the upper house, sparked a second day of protests on Tuesday in the northeastern state of Assam, where millions have settled in recent decades after fleeing neighbouring countries. Demonstrators in the state are angry about the bill not because it excludes Muslims but because it grants citizenship to settlers from elsewhere, accusing the migrants of taking away jobs from indigenous groups. The hilly state of 33 million people known for its tea plantations has been plagued for decades by tensions between tribal and ethnic indigenous groups and settlers from outside the region. Last year the Assam government published a draft citizens' register that left off four million people unable to prove they were living there before 1971, when millions fled Bangladesh's war of independence. A deadline to provide documents to be included in the registry passed on December 31, and the final list is due to be published on June 30. In Tuesday's protests in Assam, the militant North East Students' Organization (NESO) vandalised offices of Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and set banners and posters on fire. Police said that protesters threw stones at officers. "We have identified the stone pelters by seeing video footage and they will be booked soon," Assam police official Surjeet Singh Panesar said. On Monday a small party in the BJP-led coalition in Assam, the Asom Gana Parishad (AGP), walked out of the alliance in protest at the bill, saying it would lead to an influx of Bangladeshi Hindus. http://au.yahoo.com/news/indian-mps-pass-contentious-citizenship-bill-excludes-muslims-141217326--spt.html Posted by Philip S, Friday, 11 January 2019 12:13:10 AM
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http://neonnettle.com/news/6056-world-s-youngest-leader-closes-mosques-deports-imams-from-austria
Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, the world's youngest leader, has ordered the closing of seven mosques and has begun deporting “radical” imams back to their homelands due to violations of a recent law in Austria that bans “political Islam”.
“Parallel societies, politicized Islam or radical tendencies have no place in our country,” Mr. Kurz said at a press conference announcing the measures in Vienna, while railing against the disastrous results of multiculturalism in Western Europe.
Chancellor Kurz believes Muslims must be loyal to Austria and willing to integrate into society if they are to stay in the country.
If they form a “parallel society” and start preaching “political Islam“, identity politics and divisiveness, they will be expelled.
Since taking office last year, Sebastian Kurz’s government has been investigating Muslim organizations suspected of violating the country’s 2015 Islam law.
The law aims to prevent any conflict between “thinking of oneself as a pious Muslim and proud Austrian citizen at the same time,” by regulating operations of the Islamic community.
Two imams have already received deportation orders, and another 60 are under investigation and could face expulsion along with their entire family, Herbert Kickl, the Austrian interior minister, said.
A number of mosques were shut down over suspicions of links to Islamic extremism after images emerged of children as young as four being forced to wear Turkish army uniforms and salute the Turkish flag inside the mosque in Vienna’s Favoriten district.
31-year-old Sebastian Kurz, who claimed victory in Austria’s general election last year while vowing to destroy the New World Order, is making good on his promise to ignore the European Union’s globalist directives regarding Muslim immigration.
Ultimately, Kurz plans to reclaim Austrian sovereignty by leading the nation out of the European Union.
The UN official called the coalition a “dangerous development in the political life of Europe,” and said he was particularly concerned with the new hardline migrant policies endorsed by Chancellor Sebastian Kurz.