David F said- "We not only put our values on the nations which do not share our culture we put our values on other western nations."

Question-

What do others think about us putting "our values on other nations" if it means they can reciprocally put "their values on us"?

What does it mean for self determination?

Dear Canem Malum,

Self determination is defined as the process by which a country determines its own statehood and forms its own government. It does not mean freedom or democracy for the citizens of that country. Self determination for the Confederacy during the US Civil War meant the right to keep humans in slavery. As far as I am concerned self determination can be hostile to the rights of individuals, and I don’t think self determination is worth a pail of warm spit.

"I agree with its elimination and ma glad that it is
illegal in this country."

It wouldn't even need to be illegal in this country if we didn't allow Muslims in, in the first place; Why?
Because British convicts, Europeans... pretty much all the other cultures and peoples of the world

- Don't Do Crap Like That -

However, there is a technicality... we may in fairness have to also consider the practice of circumcision, but I don't think it any way equals FGM.

Female genital mutilation is neither unique to Islam nor practiced by all Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation

“Surveys have shown a widespread belief, particularly in Mali, Mauritania, Guinea and Egypt, that FGM is a religious requirement. Gruenbaum has argued that practitioners may not distinguish between religion, tradition and chastity, making it difficult to interpret the data. FGM's origins in northeastern Africa are pre-Islamic, but the practice became associated with Islam because of that religion's focus on female chastity and seclusion. There is no mention of it in the Quran. It is praised in a few da'if (weak) hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) as noble but not required, although it is regarded as obligatory by the Shafi'i version of Sunni Islam. In 2007 the Al-Azhar Supreme Council of Islamic Research in Cairo ruled that FGM had "no basis in core Islamic law or any of its partial provisions".


There is no mention of FGM in the Bible. Christian missionaries in Africa were among the first to object to FGM, but Christian communities in Africa do practise it. A 2013 UNICEF report identified 17 African countries in which at least 10 percent of Christian women and girls aged 15 to 49 had undergone FGM; in Niger 55 percent of Christian women and girls had experienced it, compared with two percent of their Muslim counterparts. The only Jewish group known to have practised it are the Beta Israel of Ethiopia. Judaism requires male circumcision, but does not allow FGM. FGM is also practised by animist groups, particularly in Guinea and Mali.”

David F- Thanks for your information. See link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination

We could if we wished research the things done to women, men too for that matter in the name of God
The list would be long, in the first testament we too, had been told not to eat pork, Jews and Muslims are still told this
The Jews, and some of us practice a religious right on our sons
We tend to dislike difference
Some, for century's, hate Jews for? killing Christ, a Jew himself who told us the Jews are his chosen people
The world is divided not by race but by belief
If we for just a second think about that we may find our brightest invention, God, has had his/her day