Hey Belly,
What is your opinion of this?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-18/paul-costas-killer-jailed-for-brunswick-carjacking-murder/10629916

- At the end of the article -

"The four other young men involved have already been sentenced for the lesser offence of aggravated carjacking."

My question:
How does this punishment stack up as compared to other ideas in regard to punishment and culpability?
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/26/felony-murder-teenager-55-years-jail-indiana

Armchair critic in all things American justice is not a good thing to compare with any thing
He should serve little time
Please forgive date country and offenders true age
I will do my best to remember in this days press, read many ,young man knifed his mum killing her, after she caught him smoking
About 12 to 14 years old, he said I never killed any one, only my mum
Surely he [has been ruled too young to face courts] should not walk free

Hey Belly,
What I was getting at was if those carjacking kids from Melbourne had've been in the US state the article I linked to, every single one of them would be facing felony murder and 45 - 55 years jail.
Now it seems a bit harsh on the offender and a very high priced bill for taxpayers.

But what it does say is that if you involve yourself in a crime and someone dies; even if its not your fault you answer for the whole lot because you took part in the crime in the first instance.

Do I think those Melbourne kids that took part in a carjacking in which a person died as a result should face heavier charges than just the carjacking? YES.
Those kids will be bragging they killed someone and got away with it.

Maybe the one who did it should face murder, and the rest should face manslaughter.
After all someone died whilst in the commission of a violent crime.

- But I'm always looking at flaws in my own arguments -
What if someone simply jaywalks; and some mother driving with kids in the car locks it up to avoid the jaywalker, and a heavy loaded truck following behind rams into the car with mum and kids, causing deaths.

Should the jaywalker face multiple murder / manslaughter charges?

Armchair critic your point is taken and in truth you mirror my views
Let me be clear in all things my view is the center is best place to be
So this thread did not call for lock them up and throw away the key
But some thing like this, first offense, not a very bad crime, two months locked away nothing harsh but education and if needed help
Right up to that child killer mentioned above, 10 years education and training included but the ability to increase the sentence if he needs it
Some kids would come out as good people five or six bonds will not do that