China is a testing ground for surveillance technology the west will eventually use. Guarantee guarantee Western countries are looking at this new use of monitoring people.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/china-using-computerised-cars-to-track-its-citizens-movements-habits/news-story/c6d60fc61022b815ca3a44005249c98b

China using computerised cars to track its citizens movements, habits

In a worrying escalation of the Chinese government’s spying network, its surveillance is now extending into everyone’s lives.

When Shan Junhua bought his white Tesla Model X, he knew it was a fast, beautiful car. What he didn’t know is that Tesla constantly sends information about the precise location of his car to the Chinese government.

Tesla is not alone.

China has called upon all electric vehicle manufacturers in China to make the same kind of reports — potentially adding to the rich kit of surveillance tools available to the Chinese government as President Xi Jinping steps up the use of technology to track Chinese citizens.

“I didn’t know this,” said Mr Shan. “Tesla could have it, but why do they transmit it to the government? Because this is about privacy.”

More than 200 manufacturers, including Tesla, Volkswagen, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Nissan, Mitsubishi and US-listed electric vehicle start-up NIO, transmit position information and dozens of other data points to government-backed monitoring centres, The Associated Press has found.

Generally, it happens without car owners’ knowledge.

The automakers say they are merely complying with local laws, which apply only to alternative energy vehicles. Chinese officials say the data is used for analytics to improve public safety, facilitate industrial development and infrastructure planning, and to prevent fraud in subsidy programs. But other countries that are major markets for electronic vehicles —

** the United States, Japan, across Europe — do not collect this kind of real-time data. **

That is what they say now BUT we all know the NSA,CIA etc have illegally been recording all internet transmissions for years.

Unfortunate but in truth a little more surveillance may save lives

Yes Phil, they're all watching you. And talking about you behind your back, of course.

Belly - I can guarantee people will not be saying that when the technology is turned on individuals.

For example.
In China millions of people have been unable to go on planes or trains,
also unable to register their children in some schools, get home loans even open bank accounts.

Facial recognition cameras wait till they start programing them to detect for something trivial as outstanding parking fines or overdue library books.

Dear Philip,

Belly doesn't care because he knows that he wouldn't be around for long, until this comes to Australia.

Who ever asked them to save lives in the first place?

It is not for us that Big Brother does it, but for their own interests: they know very well that once we leave this world, they have lost us for good and no equipment whatsoever, no matter how sophisticated, can then track us!

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/burns-11082018141416.html

Belly does not care because 1984 came and went without big brother
Because we need weapons to reduce the crime and terrorism that is a much bigger threat to us all
Belly dislikes intensely any form of PC any dog whistling about rights over riding the safety of us all

C'mon now we all REALLY know what this is all about.
It doesn't matter what we think, nor what the govt tells us, because we know it is something they want therefore it is good for them, and if it's good for them, historically, it's bad for us.
I have no idea why, but it will become obvious years from now.
Now I hear some people say, 'if you are an honest person, you should not concern yourself with being under surveillance'.
Now I can agree with that comment, BUT, for some reason, I just don't like it, and I'm as clean as they come.
So why do I feel so uncomfortable about the whole idea or concept of surveillance, when I know it's a good thing, in that it will help filter out the baddies' of the world.
Or will it?
Typical of ALL baddies', they will find a way around it and the goodies will end up being the bunnies'.
Don't forget, we are treated like mushrooms, 'kept in the dark and fed bullsh!t'.

Deep state police hide behind radar guns , photograph trucks and their daily hours of driving , list child abusers for employment checks and allow organised banking dealers to gather credit rating.
OLO lists date and time of posting private opinions which the Kremlin hacks , records and sends to the CFMEU.

«we need weapons to reduce the crime and terrorism»

As for terror, rationally, a bomb or a shot here and there are relatively insignificant compared with more real threats, including domestic violence, road toll and melanoma from staying in the sun. These bizarre incidents would never bring terror into the hearts of ordinary people if not for government and the media which stand to gain from them.

As for crime, it is governments that decide who is a criminal - look for instance at this criminal: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-02/egyptian-film-star-rania-youssef-charged-after-showing-legs/10574966

Smoking and melanoma from staying in the sun will give infra-red heat signals for satellites. Medicare and Life Guards can combine to enter data about sunburnt customers into medical records , post sunscreen by mail and bill their bank account.

I think there's a difference to address here. The surveillance done in secret by government agencies, and the surveillance done openly by policing agencies whether they be a local police agency or a federal investigation agency. As of now (unless I'm wrong and it's changed) the police don't have the tools to just break everyone's privicy and do a massive search on their records. It seems like things are going in this direction, and it probabley is already being used by some government agencies in secret. But relight now it's not in the hands of those who might be the best source of stopping crimes and protecting the people.

On that note, this is perhaps the last stage to protecting our right to privacy, thus the last hope protecting us from government abuses. It is also the last hurdle to efficiently protecting the people from the criminals.

The real hurdle comes done to this. How much do you trust your government? If we give them the OK to use the tools of surveillance freely then we should trust them a lot. Or that crime has gotten so bad that we're willing to accept the risks of government abuses for the sake of getting kid of so much crime.

It's here now.

Australia to become first country in the world to force WhatsApp and other apps to include spyware to allow Big Brother spies to read your messages

Powers are limited to 'serious offences' such as terrorism and organised crime ** If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you **

The government will soon be spying on your messages with new world-first national security laws dealing with encrypted communications expected to pass parliament this week.

Messaging apps such as WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger are secured with end-to-end encryption, meaning the app and third parties cannot read or listen to the content - but that is now about to change.

The spying powers are limited to only 'serious offences' such as preventing terrorism and tackling organised crime in Australia.

Under the proposed powers, companies would be required to build a new function to help police access the suspects' data, or risk a fine for not doing so.

They could be asked to install software or a modifying service on the suspects' device, and provide technical information such as the source code.

The suspect would not even know if they're being spied on because the company cannot tell anyone.

On Tuesday, Labor and the government came to an in-principle agreement on key parts of the bill after the ALP pushed for it to be amended.

'The changes include limiting the application of the powers in this bill to only serious offences,' Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said.

'There are likely to be significant outstanding issues, but this compromise will deliver security and enforcement agencies the powers they say they need over the Christmas period, and ensure adequate oversight and safeguards.'

The proposed bill is yet to be signed off by parliament's intelligence and security committee.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6457945/Government-read-WhatsApp-messages-spyware-added-apps-legislation.html

Who is allowed to spy on you?

Australian Secret Intelligence Organisation
Australian Secret Intelligence Service
Australian Signals Directorate
Australian Federal Police
Australian Commission for Law Enforcement Integrity
Australian Crime Commission
State Police

A mate of mine hosted a BBQ when he just happened to lean back in his chair & looked up when he spotted a large two-metre drone hovering above the party. As soon as they all looked up it veered away. Word came out that these drones are now in daily use use by coastal surveillance.