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Republic of Australia Yes or No

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"If Australia is happy to have a monarchy without the
monarch actually being here at all, it makes sense they'd be
happy without a monarchy. I doubt they'd miss her much. "

We only see the GGen when he writes a ticket for the latest PM to come through the swing door or for the shiny scrubbed-up election champions. Probably Oz will have a minimum change , keep everything as is in Parliament with new name for the rubber stamp who won't be visible much. Particularly after the red head clown with pot belly and twit tweets.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 14 October 2018 5:14:40 PM
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Foxy, I just can't let your latest comments through without corrections.
Firstly, I absolutely agree, that most Aussies will want to 'run Australia'.
That's a reason AGAINST a republic, not for one.
As for having an un-elected Monarch 'forced' upon us.
Again you are being dis-ingenious and extremely misleading.
The Monarch of a country is not forced upon anyone.
Remember, most 'Aussies' 'came' here.
The 'forced' ones are few so don't matter anyway.
Monarchs are the rightful 'owners' of a country, by international standards.
Those standards still apply today.
If people don't like it, too bad.
If a country attacked another and war ensued, the resultant victors would own the spoils, of war.
This means the 'country or countries' they conquered.
Now if this is what you mean by 'forced' then again, too bad, change the conventions of war and peace.
Appeal to the UN, but in the meantime, Australia, belongs to Liz, and we ARE her royal subjects and we DO enjoy her protection in every sense of the word.
And it is because she has the power over parliament that I find to be one of the attractions of remaining a Monarchy.
Republicans are being arrogant and showing their 'YOBBO' and lower social breeding, by 'disparaging anyone THEY consider to be of higher standing and worth than themselves'.
So far all the negatives raised by republicans are all theories based on 'best guess' reasoning, so they are all invalid, or un-proven and therefore, un-acceptable.
All the reasons given by the pro-Monarchists, are historical, tried and proven over hundreds of years and therefore facts and therefore NOT THEORIES!
So what we will be asked to vote on in the future is whether we want, just another thief and con-man in the top job, (and this time it will be, the TOP JOB, without the queens protections) or do we want stability, safety, security knowing exactly what to expect and the fact that we have someone to turn to or looking over our shoulder, keeping things in check, because it is a well proven fact, WE CAN'T!
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 14 October 2018 5:47:46 PM
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Theory is nice and Kim Jong Un is lovely.
North Korea Article 64.
The State shall effectively guarantee genuine democratic rights .
67.
Citizens are guaranteed freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, demonstration and association.
68.
Citizens have freedom of religious beliefs.

The only person without freedom in UK was the heir to the throne if he married a Catholic until 2013 but now he has the freedom all North Koreans enjoy. Or slightly more.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 14 October 2018 6:23:52 PM
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Foxy,

"Most Australians would certainly enjoy the benefit of
being able to aspire to be the person embodying the
ultimate source of the executive authority in Australia"

Most Australians couldn't care less about such an aspiration, just as most don't get any benefit from being able to aspire to be GG or PM or Governor or Premier of any of the States'
There is as much tangible benefit in aspiration as there is in expiration (except as in the expelling of air from the lungs in normal breathing).

Belly,

Just tell us one real benefit, there's* a good lad.

*Note the position of the ' in there's above.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 14 October 2018 6:50:43 PM
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Is Mise,

You're wrong about many Australians.

A lot can happen in the next few years.

Will it be easy?
Nope.
Worth it?
Absolutely!

See you on another discussion.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 October 2018 9:45:57 PM
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Foxy,

"You're wrong about many Australians."

Wow!! Do you aspire to be President?

Or any of the other high offices of State?

I really don't think that but a minuscule few do, however, I could be wrong, so, as you say that I'm wrong pray tell us all where I am wrong?

Just how many Australians aspire to high offices of State?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 14 October 2018 10:06:24 PM
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