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Big Business Virtue Signalling

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There is concern in some quarters that virtue-signalling businesses are breaching their duties to shareholders by meddling in social issues which have nothing to do with their actual business activities. Qantas is the leading example of pronouncements on same sex 'marriage, gender issues and pronoun use, for example. Under the Corporations Act, a corporation's duty is to pursue the proper purpose of the company and to maximise profits within reason.

The problem is that there's nothing illegal about this virtue signalling. Boards have wide powers to fiddle about with non-shareholder interests. They can spend their shareholders money on all sorts of nonsense on projects that make themselves feel good. Some of them even have well-paid managers, who have nothing to do with the businesses’ core purpose, engineering what staff should think and say, and advertising to the public and their customers how 'nice’ and 'caring’ the company is.

So, what's to be done? Well, shareholders need to wake up to the fact that their money us being used for things other than increasing their dividends, and customers should take their business elsewhere, and advise the corporate poohbars why they are doing so.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 9:39:35 AM
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This sounds desperate...best of luck with this one ttbn.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 11:19:33 AM
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dd,

I'll have to do a Pauline Hanson here and ask you to “please explain”. How is it “desperate”? Why do I need “ luck”? It's not about me. I'm just an observer of stupidity.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 11:41:51 AM
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I guess we'd have to read the Qantas Mission Statement,
their Commitment statement, their method of Governance,
the make-up of their Board of Directors, and so on -
to be able to fully judge what it is that they
stand for and why they take the actions that they have
in certain areas. I'm sure that their shareholders would
know the policies of the company prior to investing with
them. Qantas is a "leading premium airline company dedicated
to being the best" and it caters to a wide clientele, staff,
it's Board, and - it's Managing Director. Which may explain the
company's stand on certain issues. It is after all a private
business - so it works within the set boundaries.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 1:12:26 PM
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cont'd ...

I've just found this link that explains why Qantas took
the stand that it did on same sex marriage:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-25/alan-joyce-calls-for-businesses-to-support-same-sex-marriage/8842332

The CEO of Qantas feels that it is "good for business."
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 6:47:32 PM
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Thanks for creating this post Ttbn. I don't support SSM and won't be supporting Qantas from now.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:47:44 AM
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With Qantas you can book flights to over 1,000 international
and domestic destinations. We're told that it's Australia's
all-inclusive services - iconic premier airline with entertainment
refreshments, and checked baggage on every flight.

"Qantas the Only Way to Fly!"

Except for those who have limited funds of course.

Cheaper options like Jetstar are available.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 3:48:16 PM
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CM,

For overseas trips I always fly with overseas companies: they are cheaper and the cabin crews are better-mannered and more obliging. They all seem straight, too. The only exception is Canada Air, which I would not recommend to anyone.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 4:30:33 PM
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Qantas has been pushing the homosexual scene for decades even before Jocye become their queen. When I go overseas I try to choose airlines where the girls are girls and boys boys. Unfortuntately here in Australia we don't have a heap of choice.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 4:44:14 PM
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//Qantas has been pushing the homosexual scene for decades//

O.... kay.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 4:58:43 PM
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I wonder about Virgin. Their head man is a rabbit who has been known to don a stewardess's skirt and a spot of lippy. Are they into all the SSM and gender rubbish too? What would Biggles make of it?
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 5:36:07 PM
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Hey ttbn,
It would be interesting if someone went through the ASX200 and compiled a graph of 'support of social and political agendas'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:11:23 AM
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Good point Armchair Critic. I've often thought different political parties (or other interested entities) could come up with rankings for the ASX100 (SP1000, DJ, etc). Currently corporations aren't punished consistently by their support or not of positions. The Social Progressives and the ADL/ ADC seem to do a similar type of ranking.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 8 September 2018 12:26:59 PM
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