another couple of stabbing murders today in Paris by Mohammed follower. Hardly makes the news. Hopefully Dutton will have the guts to minnimise the problem in Australia.

mhaze,
"The Directors Fees are taxable in the hands of the recipient and usually at a higher rate than that which applied to the fund".

Not when they are paid directly into Superannuation funds (which is usually the case with these funds). In any case, the full amount going into those funds is not only untaxed but also becomes a tax deduction that can be used against other income - which is quite a significant concession.

Once again, the ATO does not specify how the fund money is spent, just how much is given away and it's not like "work related expenses" for PAYE taxpayers which have to be justified for their relevance.
I could find nothing in the documentation that shows this not to be the case.

That's the criticism made by the ATO when these funds were first established but no politician is willing to correct that situation because of the very influential people using it to their advantage.

In the end it's a double-dipping tax rort for the wealthy masquerading as philanthropy that is denied to the vast majority of the population.

To Belly.

Out of courisity what would you call a fair tax? Whatever it is I'm sure a larger church, a larger mosque, or a larger worship center or temple of any kind would be able to find the funds. It's the smaller ones in small towns that might have to choose to pay bills or contribute to help the community. On the note of smaller towns, I'd wager their contributions to the community out weigh the amount they could contribute through taxes.

It's a little old, but consider this article on taxing churches.

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/churches-arent-business-and-they-still-deserve-a-tax-break-20161007-grxntr.html

As Josephes has mentioned, staff already do get income taxed. If the minister was hired instead of starting the church I'm betting they get taxed too. But more on that I'd need some information on the tax code for charities, or if it is specific to religions, the tax code for them compared to other organizations or individuals.

I don't think the GST should apply to donations. Which is what most churches are funded through.

Lastly though, I'm not for adding more tax revenue unless there's a worth while reason for it. To fund a certain project that doesn't have funding yet, or to continue on repairs like road maintenance. If it's not outlined in that way adding more tax revenue to a system that can't manage it's finances is just throwing money away. Why reward politicians with more money, if they can't manage what that have now? One thing that would increase my faith in taxes is if politicians weren't in the news for excess spending. At the very least let their travel costs be their own burdens to bare instead of the tax payers. If more of them did that, then I'd probably trust them more on bigger things like the projects that the taxes are suppose to go towards.

Not-now .soon at least you debate and for that thank you, well I speak of income tax, and if we did spread the base, end the ability to not pay it, for every one, we could in fact reduce it, say 20 or 25 percent as single tax rate,GST? well we will always need it but not sure what level it should be,now gets hard here, at the center of every faith, are good people who want to help make a better world,but too, almost everything that divides humanity is faith based, *see post above highlighting a Muslim criminal* why not tell of the one armed man of Irish extraction who failed to pay his cab fair in Dublin? HOW can the followers of the one true God explain the hundreds of them? why should any of them not pay tax

Belly, why should ten people who decide to give $1,000 each to a farmer in drought need to pay tax on the transaction? The farmer will have to fill out a taxation form stating his earnings for the year. If he has profited he will pay tax, if he has run at a loss he will not pay tax.

Members of Churches pool their resources to contribute to charities, and pay salaries on which personal taxes are paid by the employee's of the members.

Gee Josephus how do you so lightly ignore those donors already pay tax? that under our laws they may even avoid tax because it may be called charity donations? hard to by pass you christian fixation ,so how about we talk about taxing scientology? would that get your support? taxing the Jewish faith? Islam? how about that branch Davidians well known for the FBI thing? Johns town? any thoughts?