Paul use of the word left is informative,, it informs you its user is from the very wrong far right, is unlikely to understand politics, has expectations a day will come when he/she can shoot all of the left, bigotry lives within that group and a refusal to see the true left has its meeting in a phone box and room exists for more, Russia the home of the very left is now a Dictatorship run with a PTY LTD behind its name, China is the same, find me a true left world power, we to some extent both parties, pursue a Menzies like policy list, while swamp fever drives the right here and in Trumpland, towards an unreality far right few true thinkers want.

A government is extreme when it loses touch with the people as the left and right have done in Australian.

CM I wanted to explore a point, that left unchallenged any government would soon fall out with the most important people us voters, too that policies they would push would greatly change us all, EG Greens, we would have no coal fired power, no export trade, loss of thousands of jobs, all in one term, one nation, no migration, an export industry for current migrants, total break down of human rights,Labor you fill out the list but I am not unaware some within my party would turn us into Alice in wonderland stuff, Liberal Abbott right, not game to go there, LNP tax cuts for the rich rest of us tax rises

You know why they say a 2 party system is good Belly?
- Less people to buy off.

No self respecting dictator would sell off his or her national infrastructure assets at pennies on the dollar.

I look at the pro's and con's and flaws in everything.

well we never launched but this thread was about why two party may be the best we can ge, it too was about just how much we need strong opposition, but sadly it highlights in the end no side can please us all thanks for the contributions