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Islam a monoculture

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Toni my BS detector's going off again, time for a reality check.

"If they were arrested for filming, it's probably because they were doing so illegally. There are laws about this sort of thing - you can't just go filming whatever you want. Privacy considerations take precedence."

My issues here:

'Probably'? If you don't know, why don't you just say you don't know.
- Why do people who don't know things act like they do?
You really DON'T want to go with 'probably' on an issue in this country regarding Islam, it's likely to be politicised.
It's also likely the facts will be obscured;
Just as it's also likely you will be shown to be an idiot.

Secondly, traditionally there's no expectation of privacy in the public space (though this is a US view and not necessarily an Australian one); and this also is now a grey area and could be successfully argued with today's issue of 'people filming other peoples kids'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expectation_of_privacy
"Examples of places where a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy are a person's residence or hotel room and public places which have been specifically provided by businesses or the public sector in order to ensure privacy, such as public restrooms, private portions of jailhouses, or a phone booth.

I've seen the Aussie footage, and posted links to it on THIS site.
As a result of viewing that footage I know that the cops here are taking the exact same line as they were with Tommy Robinson in the UK;
- which was the point I made in my comment a week ago see here:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8363&page=0#262459
- And you should probably watch both those videos lest you keep spouting ignorant crap -

- What are they doing? -
Simply put; 'Protecting Islam and going after anyone who reports on or criticises it.'

Tommy Robinson is someone you've been attacking and assumed was guilty of wrongdoing, but has to some degree been exonerated.

"VINDICATION": Ezra Levant on judges' Tommy Robinson ruling IN DEPTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6yjbQye5RM
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:46:26 PM
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//Toni my BS detector's going off again, time for a reality check.//

Here you are then:

http://lawpath.com.au/blog/legal-film-public-places

I'm not familiar with the facts of the case Josephus was referring to. For all I know it was another of his tall tales. Without knowing where, why or what they were filming it's rather difficult to draw a firm conclusion on the legality or otherwise of their actions.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 4 August 2018 11:20:15 PM
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Foxy,
You stirred up some good memories there by mentioning the Lithuanian Club. In the early 70's there were the Concordia Club, the Marconi Club, Greek Cub (forgot the name) & the Lithuanian Club. There was also the Grazer in Cabramatta. The best thing about these clubs was that people from everywhere & all walks of life had a good time there. Many Australians got their appetite for travelling from these clubs. Yes, there was a great multiculturalism which has now rather sadly, gone. The misuse of Police as revenue collectors, academic politicians & bureaucrats & religious fanaticism have put paid to the good times.
Going back to the topic, Islam & has been hijacked by the dark side of humanity more so than other religions & is becoming a monoculture. At least that's how it appears to me.
I personally know many Muslims who are kinder & more generous than my own group but they always have this dark cloud of oppression hovering over them. Ours is exploitation & it's hard to judge which is the greater evil.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 5 August 2018 11:16:05 AM
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"the Police this week threatened to arrest persons passing the Lakemba Mosque"

Actually the implied threat to arrest was if they failed to follow police orders to vacate the area.

This was part of a walk-thru by visiting Canadian Lauren Southern. She had stopped in front of the mosque and filmed as part of her tour of the Mohammedan enclave.

And why were police asking her to move on?

Well they were concerned that members of the RoP (Religion of Peace) might decide to demonstrate how peaceful they are in a rather forceful way.

While the police, government and MSM are rather adept at explaining away examples of Mohammedans being anything other than peaceful, having it on film just makes it that much more difficult and who needs the hassle, right? So the non-violent members of the public were required to move on so that the non-violent members of the local community wouldn't be tempted to demonstrate their wonderful non-violence in a violent way.

Freedom of speech? Freedom of movement? What are they compared to the need to maintain the RoP fiction?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 5 August 2018 12:49:42 PM
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Dear Indy,

The Lithuanian Club in Bankstown has a Restaurant that's
open to the general public on Sundays from 12 Noon until
3pm. At other times - it opens for private functions
only. You have to pre-book. I don't know about any other
Clubs in the area. No mention has ever been made about
any sort of "Muslim problem."
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 August 2018 1:22:22 PM
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While problem exist in every group, even minorities xenophobics can if find even when it is not there, just maybe it is some type of built in need?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 5 August 2018 1:42:00 PM
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