Hi BELLY...

Well, I'm indeed mortified? Are you finally admitting that you were once a Labour and or Union thug! As evidenced by your admission; '...at such a time putting my 'kicking boots' on and demanding better, lashing out at the victor...'? That's really a bit naughty of you old friend, eh? Perhaps a brief qualification might help clear it up I believe?

OK I never wanted this, have considered you a good bloke, made myself forget you, yes Sir YOU once told us you had not been a cop, just worked with them,what story is true? you after my departure, sent a message saying my mental state [depression] may have been the reason I left, Sir, RUOK? truly honestly the degree of insults you are aiming concerns me,RUOK? this site is the best in our country, but are we just grumpy old men intent on insulting each other,like school yard kids?lost a mate, quite brilliant,hurt to see his body still walking but his brain dead, dementia has a way of doing that, o sung wo, your insults are needless and you not Paul, not me, need to look at yourself PS our post history will confirm your not a cop statement it came about the time we spoke of the while I live I grow tree on the razor back mountain

o sung wo it is in my view a symptom of whatever is wrong in your world that you took my post saying I would take to my side of politics if I saw wrong in them, your increasingly bitter posts are a symptom of an illness known as my side is the only side

Hey you two, what's all this carrying on about?

You both need to stop, shake hands, and just be yourselves.
Which BTW - are as two of the most caring men that it's been
my privilege to meet.

I value your opinions greatly. So please don't allow
this to go any further.

Words spoken in anger - as they say will be the speech that
you'll live to regret (or words to that effect).

Foxy,

Once again, the message that you call hideously racist has not one iota of a reference to race, and your conclusions as to the inference are entirely yours.

I deliberately did not call you a racist but said that you are of the same level of racism as those who distributed the pamphlets. I believe that the authors of the pamphlets were deliberately trying not to be racist, and again your inferences are your own.

The whole reason that Labor is trying to play the race card on this issue is that gang violence is rating high in the polls and Labor realising that it is a problem entirely of their own making are desperately trying to pretend that it does not exist.

This harks back to the boats crisis that Labor created. When the boats started coming there was a ton of bollocks as to there being a push factor, not a pull factor, that the Pacific solution never really worked, and that Abbott's turn back the boats policy would never work and would create a crisis with Indonesia. All of which proved to be complete crap when Abbott's policy worked.

Hi there BELLY;

And for FOXY's Information...

Wow BELLY what on earth have I said to upset you so? My response to you, apropos putting on your 'kicking boots' was just a pun, a piece of rhetoric nothing more? I'm sorry if I've upset you?

For your information when you left OLO & the Forum, I approached Graham YOUNG, and asked him if he would contact you and implore you to come back. It's my understanding that he did precisely that! The fact you didn't return was beyond my control?

I've always considered you, a very decent, hard working man, my position has NOT changed. If you wish to speak of me in a derisively or contemptuous manner - well there's little I can do about it.

You say I've never been a policeman. Well that's OK too. You must believe what you believe. It doesn't concern me, you're entitled to believe what you will? Other than perhaps the Police have been sending their Pension to the wrong person otherwise? Whatever you wish to think, I'll still consider you, a decent and honourable bloke.

One last thing, there's been another, here on the Forum, who delights in regularly calling police 'pigs', and alleging all manner of wrongdoing by them, without ever fairly presenting the obverse of the argument. Moreover the same individual has been calling Vietnam Veterans 'warmongers' and other less complimentary descriptions.

BELLY my friend I WILL NOT tolerate that sort of insulting and disparaging language; especially when I've lost good mates, both in Vietnam and in the police force. This exchange is between me and him, and nobody else. By the way, I've apologised to this same individual in the past, never once has he ever uttered anything like an apology to me.

Remember BELLY: We all bleed when we're cut!