Hi Foxy,
Re your earlier comment Wednesday, 11 July 2018 6:43:37 PM.

"...Because this is what's being inferred here concerning Muslims. Is that being fair?"

"The rise of Islamic extremism should not result in abuse, stereotyping and prejudice against an entire group of people."

Now normally I'd concede that you made a fair and reasonable argument, and I'd give you credit for doing so.
I suppose there is a dilemma of sorts.

What pleasure do any of you get from demeaning any religion or people? Is this what's known as a "fair go?"

I don't get any pleasure from it why would you automatically assume that?
- But you shouldn't have said "fair go".

I thought to myself has Islam given England a fair go? Germany? France?

You know I often talk about ethics:
So you want the Muslims and I don't.
If you had real ethics you'd respect that other of your fellow countrymen and women don't want them, and you should respect our wishes first over the wishes of foreigners.
If you did that, then there wouldn't be Muslims here to be discriminated against.

You think your taking the moral high ground, but is it really that when your choice removes any choice for the nations citizens who dont want Islam and who you couldn't care less about.

And is it not traditional white Australia, who were the ones who let you come and share this nation with them your are betraying the most?

And if you really want Islam why don't you go to one those countries, move to a Muslim enclave and test it out.

Islam can get stuffed, it's a death-cult.

Please don't take offense or take it personal the things I say, I do respect you're a valued member and contributor of this forum the same as anyone, but I have to stand up for what I believe in.

I won't have my nation, my home destroyed and turned into on of those European write-off countries because you scream unfairness, prejudice and fair go.

If rape wasn't more common among Muslims, and if women were treated better within Islam, then this wouldn't be an issue.

Unfortunately it is an issue, and is part of the equation for assisting those trying to flee their war torn countries. A second unfortunate part of the equation is that most of the countries fled to are not places the refugees like. So they don't welcome it as their home or respect it for the country that gave them a new home and a new life away from the war or other reasons they left.

The issue of rape is bad enough. The issue with not accepting the country that they move to adds to it unrepentant crime, and little chance that education will have any influence at all.

That said, what are we to do? Close borders to muslims? Do nothing for those suffering and in desperate need? I don't think throwing caution to the wind, is any better then being heartless in the face of suffering. Both need to be carefully examined instead of choosing one and leaving the other.

Muslims oppress their women so badly that they made two of them leaders of their respective countries - Pakistan and Indonesia.
You can still go and see belly dancers in Turkey, a voluntary and respected occupation.

Women originally had equality because according to their version of the the Garden of Eden myth, both were equally tempted and therefore women were not soley blamed for "the fall" as is done in Christendom, which officially regards them as property and baby-making machines. (Something to be coveted, like an ass). Also, Eve was not made from Adam's rib but both came from "one soul".

Historically Muslim women once had more rights than Christian women including being able to independently own property and hold positions of authority.
Even the notion of chivalry was brought back to England by soldiers returning from the Crusades.

However modern female oppression still occurs in the archaic orthodox theocracies of some Muslim countries and is not so much different from female oppression globally.

There is a known but silent epidemic of domestic violence within the families of some Christian Ministers as well as the well-known abuse of children generally.

Like the popular terrorist meme, "not all men are rapists but all rapists are men" and it happens in all countries under all juristictions.

To take one example and generalise it to apply to billions of people is not only misleading, it's just plain bigotry.

Rache. It's not just one example though. As for Christian ministers abusing their wife's and children (or even Catholic priests having sex with children) it's not bigotry that many people lose heart in their faith and in the churches over these matters and leave. The same response over Muslim rape is just as justified when hearing a series of examples of Muslim rape attacks, as it would be for people to lose confidance in the church over examples of abuse.

But for the sake of bigotry. Look at the details. Is there a higher number of rapes coming from refugees then from general population as a whole? If so that shows a problem and a trend to stand against.

Let every one of us be aware and act on the understanding this site can suffer as it has in the past if we become openly racist,now yes I am a nonbeliever, think honestly humanity can never be one unless we truly debate why any faith should make rules for us to live by, too! the death of the term integration was forced on us,that too many from this faith *every faith*act well badly because they think that faith wants them too,but can any one, say every member of any faith is evil?these rapes took place, the offenders are Muslim,Christians, even PRIESTS commit rape,mix the cocktail of hate but aim it at every faith, can we open our eyes? see the whole world is facing a problem as mass migration mass refugees, thelast not even near its peak numbers to come, and that like it or not it is too late to stop?
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How can we talk of this? are we free to say what we wish to? see this faith, like everyone, grows strongest in places that have poor people often not well educated and a culture we would never want to see here, but not near every one of them is a racist,the children of most migrants will fit in as well as any group, we however will never see any race any faith not presenting us with problems,multi culture is a support for more problems, until we look at faith and its effects on our daily life we will find some posting about Muslim sins but we can if we wish post a million a week about crime branding the offenders by other faiths integration is only the name of a community living together with mutual respect,much pain awaits us until we see that