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The Forum > General Discussion > Sonia Kruger and free speech.

Sonia Kruger and free speech.

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If the discussion went down as claimed then it seems to me that Leyonhjelm has done himself no favours. SHY's sexual activity or otherwise is not his business or anybody else's as long as it involves consenting adults and is not in contrast to public moralising on how others should behave.

At the same time the way the debate is framed (and the way SHY appears to be framing it) is a pretty broad brush attack on men for the actions of a small minority who typically hold no regard for societal norms. The reality is that until we can adequately identify those individuals willing to do others harm (in other than self defence scenarios) and find ways to isolate them from the rest of us we all need to do some risk analysis, we need to minimise the risk when in situations where the risk is unreasonable and be prepared to defend ourselves if that's not successful.

Trying to make rape and violence against women about "men" as a category rather than about those who do the harm is in my view far more offensive than the claims about Leyonhjelm's comments.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 6:33:36 PM
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Leyonhjelm is without doubt the phoniest politician in Australia. The fraudulent grub lied his way into parliament. The fool misrepresented himself as a Liberal/Democrat when in fact he is nether Liberal, or democratic. Leyonhjelm represents no one except himself, given his pathetic number of primary votes! The coward hides behind parliamentary privilege to throw crap at others, a total disgrace.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 7:56:16 PM
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Leyonhjelm represents no one except himself,
Paul1405,
That's exactly the case with SHY as well. Coincidence ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 8:23:30 AM
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individual,

Then who elected him to the Senate?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 11:10:11 AM
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Kruger's comments seem to be at odds with her being seen eagerly quaffing champagne in the Emirates tent at the Melbourne cup.
Having a free opinion about Muslims doesn't stop her from helping herself to their free hospitality.

Along the same line, I can't help noticing that those who endlessly complain about something they've seen on QandA just keep watching it.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:24:11 PM
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I don't condone Leyonhjelm's language as I believe that it was totally inappropriate, even though after SHY interjected calling all men rapists, that most of the audience would have been thinking the same thing. The same applies to the Labor MP that called Leyonhjelm a "dick".

As for the proposed suit that SHY purportedly is planning, she would be well advised to let it go as it does not fall foul of slander laws or even 18c.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 1:07:39 PM
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