These cases aren't about winning or losing, they're about punishing.

The very process of pursuing the case, at no cost to the complainant, is the punishment. There's no chance that Kruger or anyone else will be actually punished by the courts for this, but being focred to defend it is indeed the punishment.

People in Kruger's position will learn to self-censor so as to avoid the guardians of wrong-speak. The TV networks will subtly educate their presenters to avoid these 'problematic' utterances. A Bill Leak cartoon won't be published again. University students will have learned to not notice apartheid in their schools.

And we will all be just a little bit less free to defend our freedoms. That is the point of 18c

G'day there SHADOW MINISTER...

Gee's this country gone to 'hell in a hand basket'. To think we were lauded as a country of freedom and free speech and these lousy whinges initiate legal proceeding because they were offended - Mate if I got hold of a few of 'em, they'd have something to really whinge about.

I've got this belief, most of this PC nonsense originally emanated from our Universities, where many of the tutors/lectures' and other academics, are essentially from the far 'Left'. They try to inculcate into the minds of our susceptible students, a boatload of this 'Lefty' ideological detritus.

Thus ensuring upon their graduation, they emerge as radical ratbags roaming around trying to convince others of their grand plans for World Socialism? While the rest of us, including we retirees, continue to earn a quid, pay our taxes, therefore ensuring these people may permanently live on the various government handouts they've come to expect.

This is the age of entitlement SHADOW MINISTER; Therefore it's incumbent upon our generation to find appropriate solutions to this dilemma? Perhaps we should consign them to a statutory period of some form of National Service? Completely devoid of weapons of course; armed only with tools necessary to cultivate and prepare the soil. They then, may continue to complain all they like among themselves.

There was a perfect example of hypocrisy on Q$A last night when they debated something Lleyonhjelm apparently said to Hanson-Young.
I think it was the Labor git who blurted out that Lleyonhjelm was "a dick" for saying to Hanson-Young to stop sha..ing men. This quip got a lot of laughs from the audience. I wondered how many laughs there would have been if Leyohjelm called her the female equivalent ?

The audience laughed at that comment on "Q&A" because
the Labor shadow minister -
actually said what everyone else was thinking.
And the panelists and the audience agreed -
that an apology was due to the female Greens Senator.
It was an inappropriate remark that should never have
been made especially in the Senate.

As for Sonia Kruger's remarks? They were made in 2016,
At a time when the issue of terrorism was increasing
world wide - and many people were expressing their concerns.
Kruger could have perhaps avoided generalisations.
In any case the bloke - Ekermavi - has been involved in
32 hearings before the courts and tribunals, 22 of them have
related to vilification complaints - he's a serial complainer.
I would be very surprised if the AHRC doesn't throw this case
out. I feel that they will realise that its not worth
pursuing.

Lionbreath and Hanson-Young deserve each other. Two idiots who add nothing to the parliamentary system, democracy or comon sense.

Foxy,
So, do you consider being referred to as a Dick is fine but a suggestion to your relationship activites (not actually being called anything as opposed to being called names) is inappropriate ?
There were a lot of people who applauded what Leyohjelm suggested to Hanson-Young & they didn't consider it inappropriate. And, yes ttbn is right in his assertion.