Surely no one has ever been booked for being on a phone AFTER stopping? answer while driving no! no personal freedom should over ride the rights of others to be safe from such a driver but if mine rings it is in my pocket and not until I have stopped will it come out

Belly, you would be surprised at some of the things we get booked for over here.
I totally agree with not touching the phone to text, unless stationary, I don't text, it takes too long, it's a phone so I'd rather talk, it's quicker and more efficient.
But I can assure you, if the phone rings, and I'm driving, I WILL answer it, because I don't need to take my eyes off the road to press 'speaker'.
Then I might just put it back in my top pocket where it usually sits or down on my lap, depending which car I'm driving.
Either way, other than the answering and hanging up, which in each case takes less than a second and less distraction than playing with some accessory on the dashboard, I will answer the phone then talk with both my hands on the steering wheel.
That, in my view, is a 'hands free' telephone conversation.
You can keep your blue tooth or whatever it's called.
As far as getting booked 'after stopping' goes, it is like an epidemic here because we are not lawyers, who BTW have also been booked, so we as consumers don't know the laws other than the obvious ones.
We find out about these obscure laws when we get booked.
I used to write to the police ombudsman regularly, complaining about something or other.
Now they no longer have them.
When I last tried to enquire they told me to contact the relevant minister.
You see this is how they get their way.
If I say they have removed our access to complain and criticise a govt department, they simply say, no we haven't, you can still complain, but to the minister.
As if the minister gives a crap.

ALTRAV would never do that in my state baby faced cops, both sexes, hunt for victims and remember one such booked a mail man for? riding on the foot path then? parking on it out side the PO many good cops willing remind you they are not all like that

Belly, I used to think cops were someone to look up to.
As a teenager and even a little older I remember when a cop would stop to enquire as to what you were doing and depending on the answer, we get a fair slap on the head and told to move on.
All this was done with a slight smile or smirk, and even as teenagers we regarded cops as more like our fathers, uncles or big brothers.
And we did not dislike them, quite the opposite.
They were mature enough to know that young men are cheeky or cocky, it's quite normal.
But today's PIGS have no respect for the public, they don't even look you in the face when interacting with you.
This new anti cop times we live in was created by them.
If they want respect THEY have to change and earn it, otherwise they will start to get a little more than they dish out.
I will say that the country cops were much better and more mature.
Sergeants too were good, more mature and understanding.
Both of these treated people like friends and it was reciprocated.

ALTRAV pointless trying to say you are not right, my life has been full of good cops from my youth playing football with and against them to my years at road trauma sites sharing quietly a pain we never spook of, BUT YES general duty cops will tell you, some, highway patrol cops are the reason we, well, distrust fail to like cops, recent roadside breath test got ugly, big mouth small brain youth in the wrong job swore at me, it got heated no reverse gear in my case if wrong is done,his site senior came to my aid and said sorry, maybe that youth will do far more harm to every good cop in his career than ten criminals

Belly, I don't know what state your in and the exact circumstances surrounding the incident you speak, but I will say this, anyone dealing with the public MUST first learn the art of diplomacy.
If not situations will develop very quickly and not for the best.
Anyone dealing with the public in a position of authority, must know that they are immediately perceived as the enemy, because they are there to challenge and threaten them with some wrong doing.
No-one, absolutely no-one is happy to be told they have done something wrong and are now liable for a fine.
You might say, the cops are not psychologists.
Well unfortunately if they don't want things to get worse, or just because the public want to see them treated with respect, it is the cops duty to comply. Lest we forget, as much as they don't want to hear it, too bad, they are public servants.
I hold the American police doctrine to high esteem.
'To Protect and Serve'.
Now there's a mantra to be proud of.
Not deride, threaten and bully.
And yes I can quote examples of such behaviour over here by the cops.