Bush Bunny said; By the way someone wrote UK is too small for renewable?.

What that was about is that the UK is too small to have sufficient
difference in weather to enable wind and solar to be the sole source of electricity.
Likewise Sth Aus is too small and Australia might be big enough but
it would need all areas that have grid electricity to be connected
to the one grid.

To get back to the thread I would not vote for any party that has the
aim of 100%, or even 50% wind & solar.
Even Australia cannot afford the scale of the multiplication
of solar and wind needed to cover our continent.
Russia with its vast longitudinal spread may be in a good position
to try it but it has the disadvantage that much of its territory is
too far north and would not have much solar output in winter.

You might notice that this factor in renewable electricity has never
had much coverage in the past and it is only now that any attention
has been given to this limiting parameter.

Bazz was it not you who posted so often telling us peak oil was here? your hobby and mine benefits from solar power our remote sites run on it my shack runs only on it and battery's are getting cheaper and better every year,once no doubt people said Whale oil ,was here to stay

I have no doubt that renewables will eventually arrive but they will never be fully 100%. The Tech isn't there yet, but they're working on it. Another 50 years maybe for a 80/20 split between renewables & Coal. It's not so much the generating of Renewables but the Storage. That is the Problem.

Anyway, buggar-it vote Pauline. She seems to have more answers than the rest of 'em put together.

Belly said; Bazz was it not you who posted so often telling us peak oil was here?

Yes and it did arrive in 2005 which was why the price rose through to
2008 to $147 and crashed the economy.
The industry in the US got stuck into tight oil by fracking which has
given us some ten years grace.
Unfortunately we have not taken advantage of that ten years and the
tight oil industry has now developed into a Ponzi scheme.
They are now talking about "Peak Demand" which amounts to the same thing.
As far as Australia is concerned we are now almost out of oil supply
so much so that our refineries are being closed because we do not
have enough oil to make refining viable.

Batteries are pretty much a lost cause because the extra solar cells and windfarms
that have to be installed just to recharge them makes
them uneconomic. The UK study found they would need 14,000 the same
size (120 Mwhr) as Sth Aus's at L600,000 each.

Actually batteries are not getting much better. A Uni group in the US
did a study of the element tables and all combinations and they came
to the conclusion that we have the best combinations.

Ah Jayb, it is a worry that the politicians are not taking the problem
seriously.
It now appears that the 24% (50% labour) Paris agreement reduction has
to be applied to agriculture which means 600,000 (1.1 million) have
to be culled from our dairies. Some 17 million sheep have to be culled also.

No suggestion (yet) that 24% (50%) of people will have to be culled !
The refusal to act to have some new coal fired stations built is just
plain madness.
From today it would be about four years to build a new one.
We have a shortage NOW ! All these new migrants will not be bringing
their own electricity with them.

To have such an illogical approach to electricity generation is not
a viable management policy. How many Megawatts will the NEG generate ?

Frankly the sanity of our politicians has to be in question.

The one third cut in my power costs feed back panels bought with them, the black out proof and lighting battery back up separate system bought was great too, mate VK2KKZ Bazz, now lost to dementia, ran in the end a stand alone system that never let him down