The New South Wales Government's decision to reverse a planned cull of brumbies in the Snowy Mountains has split communities across Victoria and NSW.

Conservation groups believe sensitive alpine environments and native species will continue to be destroyed by the wild horses.

The NSW Government originally wanted to reduce the number of horses in the Kosciuszko National Park by 90 per cent over 20 years.

Instead, NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro this week announced the brumby management plan would prohibit lethal culling because the cultural significance of brumbies needed to be recognised.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/nsw-brumby-cull-backflip-splits-community/9787968

"Mehreen Faruqi, the Greens environment spokeswoman, said the party had "deep concerns" about the draft plan, especially the cruelty involved in trapping and shooting the horses.
"The proposed 90 per cent reduction in brumby numbers was extreme and seemed to be just a number plucked out of the air," Dr Faruqi said, adding non-lethal methods, such as fertility control, should be given priority."
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/brumbies-cull-battle-over-wild-horses-in-kosciusko-national-park-heats-up-20170609-gwnyob.html

and here we were thinking that the Greens were in favour of conservation of native wildlife.
One wonders why they are favouring feral pests, perhaps a grab at a headline takes precedence.

“Split(ting) communities” is becoming the sport of the elites in Australia: keep us squabbling while they quietly enrich themselves by sucking up to bent Chinese, racking up power costs in cahoots with AGL, the Paris Accord, globalism and the international Marxist movement.

Bugger the brumbies! Get real before they they start culling those of us who don't want to go along with the 'new order’.

Here we go again, another one of Issy's regular "lets kill something threads". If its not people, its horses or elephants, wombats, Skippy, whatever.
//favouring feral pests//; no we never favour members of the Shooters and Hooters Party, they can be as feral and pesty as they like. Get your mate Tweedledum, or is that Tweedlevendumer, to tear himself away from his annual annihilation of endangered elephants in Africa, and have him blast away at the brumbies for a change.

What's the cultural significance of rabbits?

I don't know, have you asked Bugs Bunny!

Then again there is the Easter Bunny, a try icon of Australian culture.

Hi Paul1405,
Since we're on the topic of shooting things...
I thought you might find this article interesting.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/south-west/margaret-river-massacre-depression-drug-clue-to-grandfathers-murder-of-family-ng-b88840726z

You have an issue with the guns, but I have issue with the prescription antidepressants side of the argument.
This issue is always ignored in regard to the anti-inflammatory agenda.

Wow! Paul, touched a nerve did I?

How do you justify the Muslim Green touting the preservation of feral pest animals over the well being of the environment and native animals?

There is no place in the Alpine parks for wild horses, so move 'em out.

Not at all Issy, I thought I was being rather jocular on the subject. As this is an alternate week I believed you and I only discussed your favourite subject of mass killings, and other such pleasantries on every other week, as per our unwritten agreement. Are you reneging?
On this subject I say Mehreen Faruqi, as Greens spokesperson on the matter, her response was measured and reasonable. What have the crazy Two Bobs from your Shooters and Hooters got to say about these supposedly pesky varmints?

Paul,

Why is a Green sticking up for an introduced, destructive animal in one of the most sensitive areas of Australia?

Seems perverse or are there votes seen in the offing?
I haven't bothered to see what the SF&F Party thinks of the issue, but I think that the Alpine Parks are no place for feral horses and they should be removed before they wreck the whole area.

I just noticed the error in my previous comment.
- 'anti-inflammatory' should've been 'anti-gun'.
Not sure how it happened; I commented via my smartphone and maybe the spellcheck changed it.

The point of the opposition to culling, is every animal has a right to a long a fulfilling life. Irrespective of what that animal contributes, either good or bad.

The rising power of animal rights, trumps all opposition to premature death of any animal.

diver dan,

That's funnier than Pauls' offering; how do you do it?

Is Mise.

How do I do it? Easy.

The theory goes one step further. With animal rights, human life may be flexibly valued upwards but usually downwards.

The example is the tension between surfers wishing for Government protection from shark attacks, and animal rights activists regularly delegating the value that a shark is towards the environment in which it lives, and the dismissive value of one surfer eaten in the process of protecting sharks.

With the live sheep export controversy currently raging (again), the value of the people eating sheep meat, is usurped by the comfort of the animal during transport.

This is the new order in the continually evolving Western Democracies.

I reckon those horses have been there long enough to have made any changes they are going to. Keeping the numbers down by contraceptive methods would not hurt, but the horses should stay now.

I refuse to call it damage, as I don't accept that any eco system is perfection, & should be frozen in time. In fact we need to do a hell of a lot more burning of this country to even freeze it now, or as at white settlement.

I have actually explored a couple of off shore islands that are known not to have had a fire in over 2 hundred years, & probably thousands. I have not seen any country like them ever.

Running cattle through the highlands in summer was better for the native wild life, than leaving it to thicken, unburnt for decades.

I am sceptical of what might motivate our resident gunnie to be banging on about Brumby culling. Not known for any concern for the well being of the environment, its more likely the irresistible opportunity to take part in horse killing is the driving force behind the new found environmental concern.
Issy, are the Two Bobs from the Shooters and Hooters Party missing in action on this? What do we pay them for, are they off at the annual Dodo cull on the island of Mauritius. or some such nonsense.

There are roughly 70 Australian mammals and many other species on the edge of extinction due to habitat destruction and predation by alien species from camels, horses, buffalo, foxes, cats, rabbits, cane toads etc.

That the greens both oppose culling alien species and supposedly support the protection of the environment exposes how they lack the balls to take the hard decisions.

SM

What it proves actually, there is no progress to be made with radical politics in any Western Democracy. The Greens have become a suck-along Party for the wealthy.
It will die a death.
Anything it seems, iutside the welfare of a koala bear and a homosexual is not worth their effort.
Does that sound cynical? I hope so.

Paul,

I, like most hunters, am a conservationist and the Sporting Shooters Asociation (of which I'm a long term member) has done more for real conservation than the Greens have ever done.
I continue to kill foxes as a conservation measure and for the enjoyment that I get out of whacking them at long range with one shot kills.
.220 Swift in a No1 Ruger (single shot) rifle, 60 grain soft point bullet at around 3,600 ft/s muzzle velocity and some 1,700 ft/lb of energy (hand loads). Variable power optical sight, (6x12).

I started this post to shew the utter hypocrisy of the Greens in mouthing off about conservation and then defending feral animals that are doing real damage.

You seem to be fixated on guns and killing; repressed desires?

Issy. as you well know the Greens policy is not about protecting feral animals at all, but about the humane control of these introduced species. You personally might be doing some good, but to claim the Shooters and Hooters are doing anything about conservation is ridiculous. All these people are self absorbed in what's good for them.

Shadow Minister, it might be time for the Baraby Cull, that introduced hypocritical species that frequents the Coalition. Now that grub has his snout in the trough once more, this time to the tune of $150,000. In his typical grubby style he's trying to blame it all on his concubine. Can't blame the misses, or his new born child this time, so he blames the girlfriend. How does the woman put up with this red faced fool.

Paul,

What I claim is that the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) have done and are doing more for conservation than the Greens have or will ever do.

Issy, can you prove that, What is their biggest claim to fame thus far for your organisation on the environmental front. I am not aware of any such contribution.

Sorry for confusing your political arm, the Shooters and Hooters Party, with the Australian chapter of the NRA, your SSAA mob.

Paul,

"...political arm, the Shooters and Hooters Party, with the Australian chapter of the NRA, your SSAA mob."

Care to give a little evidence for that?

Just a little will do, a smattering.

Paul,

The problem with the greens is that they want to be all things to all people. The "humanitarian" approach to curbing a feral population never works. The most humane method is culling using skilled marksmen which have been used to control elephant numbers in Africa.

Most people have realised that the greens are a joke whose policies involve stopping anyone doing anything.

Issy, I'm waiting, are you working on it? Just the top half dozen monumental environmental achievements of that SSAA mob will do. Oh! yes, they were instrumental in saving the World Heritage listed Tasmanian wilderness, is that correct, or was that Bob Brown and the Greens. Maybe you do not consider World Heritage listed sites as worth saving. I will keep reminding you until you come up with the goods, or shut up.

Now I understand why you harries Foxy so often, its a conservation measure, and you get enjoyment out of whacking away at her with your keyboard.

A government back flip on the Brunby cull. Surprising what 10 grand can get you;

" NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is facing accusations he has broken the Ministerial Code of Conduct by not declaring a donation to cabinet while debating a bill which would overturn a decision to cull thousands of wild brumbies in the Snowy River.

Peter Cochran is a former Nationals Member for Monaro and owner of Cochran Horse Treks. He has been fiercely lobbying against a brumby cull announced by the NSW Government in 2016.

Mr Cochran and his wife donated $5000 each to the National Party ahead of John Barilaro’s successful 2011 campaign for the seat of Monaro. The declarations show Mr Barilaro as the recipient of the money."

Shadow, how is the Barnaby Cull going? The poor slob is now on four weeks sicko leave from parliament, how appropriate. Gauss who's paying for it, tell us Shadow, who is paying for it!

Paul,

The cull of Sleaze Rhiannon is going very well I believe.

I also note that you or the greens in generally have completely failed to suggest any viable alternative.

Don't you know Shadow, my friend is taking over. And the Barnaby Cull, Anything to report?

Paul,

I can report that I am happy that parliament has trimmed the deadwood and the old communist disease Rhiannon has got the shaft.

Considering that the greens are pushing for paid maternity/paternity leave, I fail to see why you have any grounds for BJ taking it?

Rabbits were very high on the weekly food list a while ago, and now they bring another feral pest in to destroy feral rabbits as well as kid pet rabbits. I believe the beef industry could see a rising challenge to their industry. There is no telling where or what this ferral bug will end up as.

The Chinese are the biggest rabbit eaters in the world, followed by europe.
The South Americans eat 65 million guinea pigs / year.
And they go and stuff an export product from Australia.
The fastest growing animal pound for pound ever. And very water conscious.
There is not many animals with a stomach like a compost heap and turn it into one of the highest protein meats on earth.
Our govt had to make sure the deadly virus was a mistake delivery, because no one knows where it will end up.

Is Mise,
I have no doubt that your choice of tools does the intended job very nicely. My compliments.

Issy,

I could have used your skills with that pop gun of yours last week. My FOX tel was off the air, for four days, and the bloody pesky varmints couldn't fix it. Rather, I could have had you fix them for me, pop gun and all!

Shadow, by the looks of your mate Barnyard these days, me thinks he was a breech birth, and the arsehole came out first. He's gone Commo on us with his red face and all, and taking all these socialists benefits like he is.
Yes Auntie Lee is retiring, I know you are sad about that, but all good things must come to an end. However, don't worry my friend, all is not lost, Mehreen is taking over, and she will give as good as she gets in Canberra, don't you worry about that!

Issy, I have not forgotten, remember your unsubstantiated claim. I'll refresh;

//What I (Is Mise) claim is that the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) have done and are doing more for conservation than the Greens have or will ever do.//

I am waiting, remember there is a 350 word limit on posts, so just the main half dozen will suffice. I don't want you overtaxing your brain on this question.

And because I am a nice reasonable fella, I'll give you the weekend to come up with the answer. You might want to consult with your gunnie mates Wichita Willy and Buckshot Billy as to what are the monumental achievements for the environment by the gun happy brigade.

I remember a certain little forum shooter, who kept sticking it up a certain little forum fox, because the fox wasn't providing evidence to the satisfaction of the shooter. I hope this is not payback time.

Paul,

Patience, lad.

Not long home and I'm just about to have a bit of lunch then to bed to get rested for tonight's foray against the foxes.
We were out last night successfully; how many feral pests, like foxes, did the Greens remove from the environment last night?

Paul,

Sleaze Rhiannon and most of the other greens would appear to have been birthed out of the sphincter, as they are all full of crap.

Issy,

With you the forums resident gunnie setting the bar for making unsubstantiated claims I'll answer the question thus; How many feral pests, like foxes, did the Greens remove from the environment last night?

The Greens have done and are doing more for the removal of feral pests than the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) have or will ever do.

Don't try and take the above as your out for not providing the evidence you have been asked for. Monday is coming.

If unsubstantiated claims are the norm, I'll claim last nights feral pest removal by The Greens was 10,872,957, not including the Bobbsey twins

Keep it up, Paul.

We, six SSAA members did more over the last three nights than the Greens did; the Greens did not remove one feral pest from circulation.

How are the Greens doing up around Byron Bay, the Lantana Capital of NSW?

Issy, the of day of reckoning is nigh, the evidence please for your as yet unsubstantiated claim! I await your affirmation with baited breath.

How are the Greens doing up around Byron Bay, the Lantana Capital of NSW? Very well thank you. Thank you for taking an interest, but I do not wish to distract you from gathering the evidence to substantiate your claim about the SSAA mob.

Paul,

Just off out to start the night's hunt.

What are you hunting?

"... with baited breath."

Flies, perhaps and what did you eat for bait?

I an hunting varmints who would go out at night and shoot dead our little woodland creatures, with or without bated breath.
I hope your good mate and leading gunnie Tony Azzi isn't there, he tends to believe wombats are just far foxes. You don't think wombats are fat foxes do you.

Don't forget that evidence! I await the validation of your claim.

Is the following, SSAA members at work?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/multimillionaire-car-dealer-tony-azzi-investigated-over-wombat-deaths-20151218-glqoga.html

Paul,

Getting desperate?
That's old hat stuff.

I'm off to bed.

Paul,

"
GREENS’ HYPOCRISY OVER FOXES AND WILD DEER
24 August 2016 / In Hunting
The Australian Greens Party has once again demonstrated why the party cannot be trusted on vital conservation and wildlife management issues, despite its pro-environment image. Retired party leader Bob Brown returned somewhat to the party’s ideologies of protecting the environment, calling for the Tasmanian government to instigate aerial culling of wild deer as uncontrolled numbers continue to destroy wilderness heritage areas.

Airing his views in a personal submission to the Wild Fallow Deer Population Inquiry, Mr Brown used evidence from New Zealand to argue that baiting and aerial shooting is a successful option to cull wild deer in his home state of Tasmania. “Helicopter culling and 1080 poisoning proved to be the turnaround point for deer control in New Zealand at its current feral population of some 250,000. As 1080 poisons many wildlife species in Tasmania (there are no native mammals in New Zealand), this is not an option here,” he wrote. “Helicopter culling is a best available option for Tasmania.”

Mr Brown also took aim at goats, writing: “Fallow deer cannot be eradicated once established in forested areas but their population in such areas can be controlled. Deer (and goats) can be prevented from spreading to new areas. Aerial culling is required.”

While the SSAA-LA applauds Mr Brown for acknowledging that shooting is an effective culling method, we point out that aerial culling is expensive and funded by the taxpayer. Ground shooting by experienced volunteer hunters from the SSAA, on the other hand, is a more cost-effective and viable option."
(cont.).

http://ssaa.org.au/news-resources/hunting/greens-hypocrisy-over-foxes-and-wild-deer

"At the same time as its past leader was showing some sense on controlling pest animals, a New South Wales Greens MP cuddled up to the Sydney Fox Rescue group in joining its quest to legalise foxes as pets. In a blatant show of ignorance, Jamie Parker MP used the irrelevant NSW greyhound racing ban to call for European red foxes to be reclassified from pests to legal pets. “There are changes to protect (greyhound) dogs but… on the other hand, people can’t even rescue an injured or orphaned fox,” he told the Daily Telegraph, before musing: “Why wouldn’t you allow someone to do that?”

The SSAA-LA urges Mr Parker and his fox-loving friends to venture outside Sydney suburbia and witness the damage animals like foxes are causing to farmland and national parks alike."

Bob Brown's pet area overrun by ferals,
What are the Greens doing about it?

Then there's the Green idiot that wants to promote foxes; as if the Greens weren't doing enough to ensure their survival by doing their utmost to stop SSAA members and others from hunting them in the
foxes' favourite protected breeding grounds of National Parks and State Forests.

The Greens desire to protect feral pests will never win out over the SSAA members desires to kill them and thus save Native animals.

//The Greens desire to protect feral pests will never win out over the SSAA members desires to kill them and thus save Native animals.//

The hypocrisy of the Gunnie fraternity knows no bounds! The fact is, Gunnies through their hunt clubs etc, were responsible for the release of many of the feral pests that now populate and destroy the fragile Australian ecosystems. To satisfy their perverse please of killing something, Gunnies released foxes, rabbits, deer and numerous other feral pests into the environment.

Now our resident Gunnie calls himself and his cohorts, environmentalists, and wants to take the credit for shooting one fox in a thousand! How is that for outlandish hypocrisy? A sick Gunnie joke indeed.

Issy, you also claimed a link between your fox hunting and the SSAA. Pray tell is there official sanction of your fox hunting by the SSAA? Where was the meeting of the executive of the SSAA held that granted official sanction of your fox hunting? Are your claiming something that is also not true.

Today is the day, Issy presents his overwhelming evidence, supporting his claim that;

"What I (Is Mise) claim is that the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) have done and are doing more for conservation than the Greens have or will ever do."

At least the Greens have never released feral pests like foxes into the environment.

But we will set that disgusting action by the Shooters aside as Issy has evidence of the SSAA mob doing great (good) things for the environment. Trying to make restitution for your fellow shooters terrible past actions, by bumping of an occasional fox, I can only applaud. Now for that evidence!

Paul,

"To satisfy their perverse please of killing something, Gunnies released foxes, rabbits, deer and numerous other feral pests into the environment"

Care to back that up with evidence, a reference or two?
Look it up whilst you are searching for something to back up your claims that the NRA of the USA sens funds to the SSAA.

Over four nights we shot 43 foxes, 2 feral pigs and 3 cats.
This was done under the Farmer Assist program of the SSAA.
Did any Greens save native animals by removing predators?

SSAA members throughout NSW take part in the Farmer Assist program
and help farmers to cut down the number of feral animals affecting their properties.

The various firing ranges along with SSAA owned properties encompass thousands of acres that are refuges for native animals.

How many properties have the Greens invested in and made into refuges?
They have certainly been involved in the setting up, at no expense to themselves, of National Parks that are breeding grounds for feral predators and noxious weeds; that's why Byron Bay is the Lantana Capital.

//Care to back that up with evidence, a reference or two?//

"Feral pigs are making their way into Sydney from the central west as people are transporting the animals dead and alive back into the metropolitan areas.

Rural Crime manager, Detective Bob Newman of Bathurst Police said highway patrol officers recently stopped 'pig hunters' from Sydney in Bathurst for a vehicle inspection, finding two live pigs near the rear of the utility."

"Although the occupants of the vehicle told officers they were planning on eating the pigs, police suspect something more sinister.

"We strongly suspect they were planning on releasing them into the scrub, fatten them and then use them for hunting training in the future," Detective Newman said.

Cumberland Livestock Health and Pest Authority ranger Steve Parker said he trapped three mature pigs last week on government land in north-western Sydney and incidences such as these were on the rise.

"Local knowledge tells us that these pigs were brought in from the other side of the Blue Mountains and dumped in the Londonderry area," Mr Parker said."

http://www.westernmagazine.com.au/story/1687367/feral-pigs-infiltrate-sydney/

Toni,

Not hard evidence but prosecute to the full as a deterrent.

Dear Issy,

I accept the evidence of unselfish well intentioned efforts on your part in the fight to eradicate undesirable feral pest, such as foxes. WELL DONE. After reading the material of the SSAA Farm Assist Programme I also applaud their efforts in that regard.
However, in no way does any of the above detract from the efforts of those environmentalists who fight to improve the well being of the environment, Including political efforts to protect National Parks and other ecological sensitive areas from recreational shooters.

Paul,

Tilterweira Station is an 88,000 acre property that was bought by the SSAA some years ago and is located next to a National Park that is a breeding ground for feral pests, the station is also a refuge for native animals that find it, as a hunting area, much safer than the Park.

Have the Greens done anything like this to help protect native wildlife?

http://www.ssaansw.org.au/index.php/home-page-articles/314-video-from-tilterweira-station

Issy, we don't have the mass of money pouring in from the NRA to purchase sheep stations! We are not the SSAA.

Paul,

Even if you drag up something from a century ago, the sports hunters are not responsible for crimes of the past and especially the Brumbies.

The facts are simple, the most humane and practical solution for reducing the numbers of large feral animals is by using qualified marksmen who can guarantee clean kill.

Don't let your pathological hatred of guns cloud your judgement. (Christine Minge could have benefited)

Paul,

"Issy, we don't have the mass of money pouring in from the NRA to purchase sheep stations! We are not the SSAA."

Care to back up that assertion with facts?

The SSAA are subject to and comply with Australian law and publish a financial statement every year.
There are no funds from the NRA, if there were the Greens (Trotskyite division) would have presented the evidence years ago, no wonder you can't come up with anything.

Have you found out yet where your secretive mates, Gun Control Australia, get their money from, can't be from members subscriptions as they only have three members, and not all of them are the full quid?

The Greens are indeed not the SSAA, the Greens are the friends of feral predators.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/farmers-hope-hunting-plan-will-curb-feral-animal-problem-20120601-1zn68.html

Then there is "Hardacres", a property of some 750+ acres, between Armidale and Inverell, NSW, that the SSAA have purchased for around $500,000 and on account of which they will spend a further $750,000 on all-weather road access, which is fair enough, as the local ratepayers should not have to foot the bill for the increased traffic.
This property will have a number of ranges as a shooting complex and will be another refuge for native animals.

The local Greens have objected as a matter of course.

//Not hard evidence//

[initiate sarcasm mode]

Gosh, what a surprise that you are, once again, unconvinced by fairly conclusive evidence of naughtiness on the part of shooters.

Because naughtiness, well, it's just not something that shooters get up to, is it Is Mise? Perish the thought! Why, 'tis a fact well known, to those who know it well, that all shooters are erudite gentleman conservationists. And the notion that any hunters might just be pissed-up bogans who do indeed get up to the occasional bit of naughtiness... well, all that can be said to that is tish, tosh, and old wet fish!

Holes shot in road signs? Piffle; those are caused by mischievous fairy-folk with hammers. Even the ones that really look like bullet holes. Especially the ones that that really, really look like bullet holes.

Hunters releasing feral species in order to have something to shoot at? Lies, calumny and slander: those gentleman conservationists were going to eat all those feral pigs just like they claimed, damn the risk of the disease, for that is the way of the gentleman conservationist.

People getting a bit trigger happy and mistaking a wombat for a particularly stout and short-tailed fox? Simply unheard of. Why, a gentleman conservationist would sooner turn his gun upon himself than upon some poor hapless protected species. Their only interest is in shooting those feral species which have popped up by themselves and have definitely not been dumped in order to provide a bit of sport.

Gentleman conservationists are well-mannered, educated, civically-minded and of the highest moral calibre. They do not over-indulge in hard liquour, and never behave in an uncouth, uncivil or irresponsible fashion. They are all, to a man, pillars of society.

And the idea that many shooters are dumb rednecks who just like things that go bang and who think that the 'no handling the guns after more than 10 cans of bundy & coke' rule constitutes responsible firearm safety is just fake news. No hunters like that, nosirree.

Or at least, that's Is Mise's story and he's sticking to it.

And we'll all believe it when he produces HARD EVIDENCE - not just charming, twee little anecdotes about his adventures as a gentleman conservationist - but HARD EVIDENCE to convince us that his claims are true.

Toni,

Speaking of hard evidence, why no DNA links to western feral pigs in the anecdotal evidence that you provide?

Surely the finders of "imported" feral animals would, first of all, have a test done to determine the origins of the animals so found?

Here is a typical example of some doubtful conclusions

"WORKING with neighbours the National Parks and Wildlife Service is celebrating the success of a feral pig control program in Yuraygir National Park, which has seen over 100 pigs culled between Red Rock and Yamba this year....Combined with recent improvements in trapping techniques, the program has seen 112 feral pigs trapped," Mr Lugg said.

"Feral pig numbers are generally low in the area compared with western areas, although there have been more regular sightings in the last few years", he said.

"Some of this is thought to be the result of deliberate seeding of areas by unscrupulous hunters.

"Feral pigs in the coastal area are highly mobile and there is abundant feed and water, which allows the animals to range over large areas," Mr Lugg said.

"Feral pigs can produce a lot of young in good conditions and we will continue working to control the population to reduce the impacts on both park neighbours and the park environment including important species such as the coastal emu," he said."

Now note this:
"Some of this is thought to be the result of deliberate seeding of areas by unscrupulous hunters."

Pure speculation, if as he says, feral pigs breed frequently and the coastal conditions are conducive to such breeding, then why would anyone want to introduce outside pigs?

Read the full article at:
http://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/feral-pigs-culled-from-yuraygir-np/2484443/

Issy for your edification.

"Foxes (Vulpes vulpes) (also called the red fox and European fox) were first introduced to Australia in around 1871. A small number were shipped from England for the purposes of sport hunting, and released into the wild in southern Victoria around Geelong, and also in South Australia."
Note; FOR THE PURPOSES OF SPORTS HUNTING.

There is no other explanation for the introduction of foxes in Australia other than for sport hunting. Your minuscule cull of these feral pests your ancestors (figuratively speaking) introduced is small recompense for the untold environmental damage you (collectively) gunnies have inflicted on the rest of society.

Issy, I'll agree the majority of shooters, you included, are responsible people, but to say there is not an element of yahoo's with guns is denying the obvious.

You know, I've told you before, I originate from the Central West of NSW, and many of my family were farmers. My Uncle John had a large cattle property, with some sheep and wheat on the black soil near Cassilis (ever been there?). The uncle, was no Greenie, but he had to stop shooters and campers coming on his land, because a small minority were irresponsible. Gates left open, fences driven through, muddied water holes, rubbish left at camp sites. Even had stock shot, one of the worse things was people shooting the insulators off the power lines, cost plenty to fix. For his own good he had to stop all trespassing.

I also worked with 3 young blokes who went pig shooting out west, from what they told me I wouldn't give them a water pistol to play with, certainly not a loaded gun. But again they would be a minority. My son (remember the one who lost his ducks to foxes) was a responsible shooter, as far as I know.

Gee Issy, your mob are certainly flushed with the cash!

How Is Mise wants us to imagine hunters:

http://i.pinimg.com/236x/a1/1b/e6/a11be639acc47619b68e62d4113031fe--bear-cubs-canada-eh.jpg

What everyone knows hunters are really like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3RJUMm-hd0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G2UuRP_d4U

See, the problem with the line of propaganda you try and advance is that will only work in the absence of other information. If you were the only hunter any of us had ever encountered, you'd be able to spin us the yarn you're failing to at the moment. But I, at least, do not live under a rock. I've met a few blokes that go pigging; I know what they are like and the sort of things they get up too. These are not people who give the slightest crap about the environment; it simply doesn't enter into their thinking. They just want to kill things. Pretty much the polar opposite of the gentleman conservationist that you'd have us believe every shooter is.

It seems to me, Is Mise, that the best thing you could do try and improve the image of shooters is not waste your time blowing your own trumpet about how green you personally are; but to work towards eradicating those bad apples within the ranks of shooters who are tarnishing the image of all shooters with their irresponsible behaviour. To me, they would seem to be more your enemy than any of us wet-blanket lefty liberals.

Paul,

"Foxes (Vulpes vulpes) (also called the red fox and European fox) were first introduced to Australia in around 1871. A small number were shipped from England for the purposes of sport hunting, and released into the wild in southern Victoria around Geelong, and also in South Australia."
Note; FOR THE PURPOSES OF SPORTS HUNTING."

Quite true, but slightly misleading as they were imported and released for hunting on horseback with hounds, not with guns; hunting with guns came later when the fox had become a pest.

It's the 'ancestors' of these people that you should blame,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2tFZhn1h5U

Then on the conservation front, there is SSAA's involvement with Devils' Ark.

Paul,

Where are you?

Are not the Greens involved in the Devil Ark program?

The SSAA certainly are.

The Tasmanian Tiger was viewed as a pest and a dangerous threat to livestock, though many of these claims were highly exaggerated. Over 2,000 bounties were paid by the government between 1888 to 1909 to eradicate the species. A sudden decline in the thylacine population was reported in the early 1900s, and the species was declared extinct in 1936. Shot to extinction by the gunnies!

Good to see the gunnies are making some small recompense with Tasmanian Devils after they shot all the Tasmanian Tigers.

Issy, where does the SSAA get the dosh from to be able to splash the cash like a drunken sailor? From very dubious foreign sources I suspect, hummmmm NRA springs to mind?. Not from the Sunday avo chook raffle down at the gunnie club, that's for sure. Now, no "pork pies" please.

Paul,

The money comes from various sources, donations, sponsors, membership fees etc., etc.
All monies are accounted for and none comes from undisclosed sources.

If you have any evidence that it does then it is your duty, as a citizen, to make your knowledge available to the appropriate authorities.

Do you know where the three members of Gun Control Australia get their finances from?

"Shot to extinction by the gunnies!"
Hardly so, many (if not most) of the Tassie Tigers were trapped or poisoned, the Government didn't care what method was used, the blame for their extinction lies with the Government of the day.

Toni,

" But I, at least, do not live under a rock. I've met a few blokes that go pigging; I know what they are like and the sort of things they get up too. These are not people who give the slightest crap about the environment; it simply doesn't enter into their thinking. They just want to kill things"

There are bad eggs in every field of endeavour, but I don't know any firearms owners who are not responsible law abiding people and they do care about the environment.
You seem to mix with a rather lower strata of society than I do, still to each his own.