Where is the 'y' in Toni, yndyvydual?
Appologies,
Antoinette (Toni) I thought you were a bloke.

"...raisins. Dried grapes are the reward that await Islamic martyrs in paradise, not virgins."

Nup. The raisin claim was made up to make Islam look less bonkers. Its claimed that the word 'houri' (virgin) was used when they meant 'hur' (white raisin). But, contra your claims, the Koran does describe the attributes of the houri eg wide and beautiful eyes, hairless except the eye brows and the head, voluptuous, round breasts which are not inclined to hang, Beautiful,
hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse, non-menstruating / non-urinating/ non-defecating and childfree, never dissatisfied.

Now I've come across (if you'll forgive the expression) some damn good looking dried fruit in my time, but never one I'd say had voluptuous breasts or unbroken hymen.

The whole 72 virgin thing wasn't made up just for modern terrorists, but also to encourage the original arab warriors to fight that much harder to conquer allah's enemies.

Most religions and societies have some myth or belief system that tries to convince soldiers that death in battle will be to their advantage eg Leonidas looked forward to dining in Hades.

Hi there FOXY...

Make no mistake FOXY, the Army is a (disciplined) death cult. The first duty of a soldier is to kill, if he's incapable of doing so, then he's not a soldier. I didn't say he had to like it, but he must be prepared to do it.

You ever wonder why so many of us came back with PTSD? Not because the possibility we might be killed. Rather, because it was us that had to do the killing. As an example if I may...?

We procured a couple of 870P with folding stocks, extendable mags. etc. Which we loaded with 12g flechettes ctg's. designed to shred one's target of his largest organ, his skin. The first instance, the target was hit almost shoulder high laterally, with a total wound diameter of about 17 inches at a range of between 5 & 7 metres traversing through very thick foliage. The target was horribly damaged, almost no shoulder remaining, nor an arm, massive (shredding). 870P with flechettes, proved to be a a great weapon for use in heavy bush. There was so much blood cascading from the target, until his heart finally gave way, and thereafter it just seeped out from then on.

Another weapon we used extensively in SV was the M18A1 & M18 'Claymore' anti-personnel mine. Great for booby traps set at tunnel entrances we'd detected. Came fitted in a small webbing pack, & relatively light in weight, all up 5lbs +- including 'clacker'(M57 Firing device & wiring) plus M40 test set and blasting caps.

It was designed to take out multiple targets around waist height with literally hundreds of metal ball bearings coming out at massive speed. In effect, almost decapitating your target in half. It had a 50 metre absolute killing zone, in an ever increasing Arc. It's effect on the human torso was remarkable, at the midriff area. Surprisingly, death wasn't always instantaneous, the screams of agony were palpable, the only relief was to despatch the unfortunate fellow with a 5.56mm.

Say a 'hello' to the realities of War Foxy.

o sung wu,

Good information, wasted on someone like AcidReflux. I don't know that that the General has ever been 'shot over'; can you enlighten us on that?

Dear O Sung Wu,

Thank You for the information.

From what I can gather - what Lieutenant General Campbell
is objecting to is the inappropriate use of death symbolism.
From what I've read he is trying to engineer a culture
of discipline that is appropriate for a military force in the
21st Century. He values professionalism and obedience to the
law. A force that doesn't define itself by its own violence.

I can't see many Australians objecting to such a military force.
Setting a higher tone for his future tenure as Chief of the
Defence Force I don't think is a bad thing.

Is Mise and Individual,
The Quote was not from Gadaffi but from the bloke below.

Algerian president Houari Boumedienne "One day millions of men will leave Arabia to go to Europe. And they will not go there as friends. They will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."

former President H B 1932--1978

I don't know when he made the statement but is now coming to fruition.