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Is Our Sympathy Wasted On Europe?

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Really, their impact on Australia is insignificant
Diver Dan,
I recall people in the old country saying exactly what you're saying. I also recall getting ridiculed as a teenager when I aired my then thoughts on this issue.
You know what they all say to me now ? "you had the sense to leave".

Just like you they too didn't think past last weekend when nothing happened. Just like you they kept themselves feeling good by refusing to see what's actually happening. It's not too late yet here but it will be soon. As some intelligent poster wrote recently on a forum "the ones we see are only the tip of the iceberg".
You really should look up what they getting brainwashed with & it's not very considerate towards westerners. Do not fall into the same trap as the Europeans did 50 years ago.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:09:22 PM
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Individual.

Your whole post is anecdotal nonsense. You refer to Pakistani Muslims in Britain I take it, (since you conveniently left out that fact from your post, I'll assume it is).

I'll put it to you, your real gripe is that Muslims are the poorest and thus in the highest average of the unemployed in the UK. Welcomed on the one hand as factory fodder, and rejected on the other as flotsam and jetsam, as factories closed and moved off shore.

They, along with huge numbers of Christian white working class, ended up commonly in the rust belts of the deindustrialised West, from the late seventies. All this for the advancement of industrialising China, with its slave labour employment conditions.
That's the same Chinese now roaming the world cashing in on our combined losses of jobs and future prospects, by leaving the working classes of the West landless and penny less.

Hasbeen

I worked in Arncliffe and lived in Kogarah for a time during the Turkish immigration highs.
It never stopped me moving freely. (I'll put that in the anecdotal basket, with your sons experiences).
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 7:54:47 PM
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How long ago was that Diver.

My sons attack was almost 4 years ago, but the latest episode just 5 months ago.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 10:16:01 PM
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ttbn,
>Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Anyone can enter or alter material.
That was the case when it was new, but they've developed procedures to address that problem. And crucially, most of the content is referenced with links you can check yourself. I daresay Wikipedia is now more accurate than any publication Katie Hopkins has ever worked for!

>First sentence: you know nothing of the kind
I watched the Schepmans-Hopkins interview. Schepmans explained why it wasn't her job, but Hopkins seemed to be too outraged to take it in.

>Second sentence: you are just speculating.
Speculation that's based on watching the interview, whereas your speculation appears baseless.

I subsequently checked her site again and found the list was FROM BELGIAN SECURITY SERVICES - which I think debunks your assumption that she, and she alone, had it and failed to pass it on.

>Third sentence: so suspected jihadist are OK?
Not at all. But the local police not investigating them was (without the benefit of hindsight) OK, as it was the job of the Federal police.

>Who said it was anything to do with local police? Brussels is responsible.
I told you she's the mayor of Molenbeek, not Brussels.

>Finally, I cannot remember you denouncing terrorism at at all.
Well my position has been entirely consistent despite your imagining me saying otherwise.

>And, terrorists are civilians just the same as ordinary Muslims,
No, once they become terrorists they cease to be civilians.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 24 May 2018 2:45:07 AM
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diver dan,
what you consider being nonsense is fact in the real world. Why single out Pakistanis in England when I'm referring to the goings-on in Europe. Perhaps it suits your agenda.
The whole idiotic show started rolling when greedy Europeans imported gast arbeiter (guest workers) from the eurasian countries because they were cheap, a bit like greedy Australians are doing now with 457 Visas.
What allows that to flourish ? The insane tax system is playing perfectly into the hands of those who want to control it all for some superstitious ideaology. We all blame our politicians all the time & yes they do have a huge share in it but it really is the flaws in our Law that is the catalyst.
The all encompassing factor is stupidity.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 24 May 2018 7:45:41 AM
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Individual.

*what you consider being nonsense is fact in the real world. Why single out Pakistanis in England when I'm referring to the goings-on in Europe. Perhaps it suits your agenda.*

I single out Pakistanis since I'm still left to assume you refer to the UK. (Part of Europe) .
Stump up and say which country you left behind.
It is nonsense to claim as many do, that it is Muslims who create problems such as terrorism, because of their Islamic religion.

It is, on the other hand, true to claim that Muslims are generally captured in the lower socioeconomic positions in society. Same applies to Australia.
My agenda is to instil a little more truth in the debate. It is true to say that radicalised Muslim youth are captured by Islamic nut cases, to perform the narrow minded deeds of radical elements in Islam.

It is not true to assume all Muslims will perform acts of terror, or similar socially destabilising activity inside their host societies. That is a patently false view.

It is in my view, an act of cowardice to harass Muslims such as their women in shopping centres, to the point where it is necessary for them to be chaperoned by a male minder, or to only venture out in groups for protection. This is Australia.

I await your answer on what part of Europe you refer to Re; escaping the Muslim hoards.

Hasbeen.

Short answer, some years ago, at the beginning of mass immigration programmes.
There are numerous places around Sydney I would be reluctant to walk for fear of attack.
One that springs to mind is Redfern, which of course, is nothing to do with Muslims.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 May 2018 11:43:41 AM
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