This morning (21/5) I received an email from a Katie Hopkins who is connected with Rebel Media. Katie wants me – and presumably thousands of others – to donate to help her defend herself against the Mayor of Brussels, who is suing her for exposing the fact that there is an ISIS terrorist hiding in the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek, a Muslim no-go area; even though the mayor herself describes Molenbeek as “a breeding ground for violence”; and even though the orchestrator of the last Paris atrocity is known to be hiding there; and even though the Mayor, Francoise Schepmans, was given a list naming the terrorists who would commit the Paris atrocity a month later. The list had Ms. Hopkin's terrorist, Salah Abdeslam, on it. But it “wasn't her job” to do anything about it. Yes. Mayor Schepmans said that!

What is wrong with this Mayor? What is wrong with Belgium? What is wrong with Europe? It could be said that they deserve all their get, because they sure as hell are not doing anything about Muslim terrorists, apart from putting out bunches of flowers, singing after the events, and muttering something about 'standing with you'. Oh, and suing someone who reveals their cowardice.

What is wrong with this Mayor? What is wrong with Belgium? What is wrong with Europe?

They did what Australia is in the process of doing now.

//Katie wants me – and presumably thousands of others – to donate to help her defend herself against the Mayor of Brussels//

I gotta hand it to Ms. Hopkins: as unpleasant as she may be, she's a smart operator. Invent some ridiculously over-the-top sob story about how the nasty Mayor of Brussels is picking on you, pretend that you're just some struggling journalist instead of having more than enough wealth to defend your lies in court, and con a truck-load of money out of fawning right-wing devotees who will readily open their wallets to help poor, victimised, destitute little Katie.

It's a better con than pretending to be a Nigerian Prince... although I wouldn't put that past her.

individual,

Yes. That does seem to be happening. We only take on the worst of 'trendsetting' countries, never the best.

TL,

You would know all about 'nastiness': you are the prince of nastiness and creepiness. You are what is politely described as a 'troubled' person. You use OLO only to manoeuvre people into a position where you can sneeringly vent your bile on them in a vain attempt to make yourself relevant. It hasn't worked. You are still the loser you have always been, and always will be.

//You are what is politely described as a 'troubled' person. You use OLO only to manoeuvre people into a position where you can sneeringly vent your bile on them in a vain attempt to make yourself relevant. It hasn't worked. You are still the loser you have always been, and always will be.//

No argument, just abuse?

10 points to Ravenclaw.

Schepmans is not the Mayor of Brussels; merely the Mayor of Molenbeek. And investigating alleged terrorists is the job of the police, not the mayor.

I don't know anything about the current lawsuit, but I do know that "exposing the fact that there is an ISIS terrorist hiding in the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek" is not a tort. I also know that Katie Hopkins has a history of making false allegations.

Aidan,

If there is a nit to be picked, you will pick it. So, it's the mayor of Molenbeek. Big deal, the story is the same. And you don't think it was her job to 'do anything about it’ even if she, AND SHE ALONE, was given the list of names? You weren't among those motorists who just kept driving when an 85 year old man was knocked down on Sudholz Road the other morning because it was 'nothing to do with you’, were you? You've got the right attitude.

And just how do you know that Katie Hopkins “has a history of making false allegations”? You have a history of making wild, unfounded statements, regularly evident here. I have seen no evidence that Katie Hopkins is a liar. At least she doesn't side with Muslims terrorists like you do whenever they are mentioned.

The really worrying aspect of this is, that with a total overdose of evidence & proof there are still Australians who refuse to work on preventing this country from going down Europe's way.
What would it take to make those Australians wake up to reality & help in this literal fight for survival of sanity against superstitious mindlessness ?

Muslims are a wild bunch: As you would be if you came from the Middle East.
So, they are not all that friendly, but then again, neither are a host of other nationalities.

The most consistently friendly nationality I have found appear to be Greeks; great cooks too. I was saved by a couple of Greeks once, so I may be biased.

Muslims aren't Christians of course, but they are definitely more consistent.
I do believe there is the odd terrorist among them. Somewhat similar to the youthful American terrorists shooting-up schools, I would imagine.

Not much point in sympathising with Europeans though. They have a very long history of butchering each other. I'm sure they can handle the odd terrorist in their midst.

While Australians continue to think that Islam is just another religion, and ignore the fact that the Muslim terrorists are actually doing what the Koran tells them to do; that there is no peace or love; ignore the fact that immigration is part of jihad and the intention to convert the whole world to Islam, then Australia is in the same mortal danger as Europe is.

The Koran is as boring as the Bible to read, so let someone else interpret it for you if you really want to be aware of the danger of Islam and Muslims, including the ones who are not terrorists. The American, Robert Spencer, is a good person to start with if you are serious.

Hasbeen,
I demand an apology for your libellous allegation!
I have consistently opposed all terrorists. But unlike you I make a distinction between terrorists and civilians. I also avoid the false assumption that all Muslims interpret the Koran the same way.

I know that Katie Hopkins has a history of making false allegations because I checked her Wikipedia page. I suggest you do likewise.

If she, and she alone, was given the list of suspects then she should have passed it on to the national police whose job it is to investigate such things. But it appears neither you nor Katie have any evidence that the list went to her alone and wasn't passed on. And importantly, the list was not a list of terrorism suspects; it was a list of suspected jihadists (thought to be planning to fight overseas). That's outside the jurisdiction of the local police, so without the benefit of hindsight there was no reason to act on it, no matter how much Katie tries to spin otherwise.

Since the terrorist attacks, though, police have done quite a lot - see http://www.politico.eu/article/belgiums-molenbeek-home-to-51-groups-with-terror-links-report/

Dear Toni Lavis,

Spot on, well done.

Ttbn

I'm reading from these posts, your fear of Muslims is bordering on paranoia.

Really, their impact on Australia is insignificant.

I'm a fan of Steven Pinker. Maybe you should read a few of his books to get things into perspective.

“Better Angles of our nature” is long-winded but has some interesting research. I don't always agree with his conclusions, but he puts in the hard-yards proving a point.
You might not be surprised with his take on terrorism, but he makes a point based on statistics. And the point is, in the long run, terrorists morph into the good guys.

“Enlightenment Now” is a recent. That's s bit of a Liberal rant, but again adds to the balance.

Nassim Taleb is no fan though

Aidan has snapped. Hasbeen hasn’t even posted on this thread, but poor old Aidan 'demands’ an apology from that gentle!

dd,

Please show me where I have said that I “fear” Muslims. I do not fear Muslims; I dislike them, and don't believe they should ever have been part of Australia’s immigration program. Like most other apathetic Australians, you don't have a clue about Islam and Muslims. You would prefer to assume that I'm “paranoid”.

Apologies to Hasbeen for conflating you with ttbn.
It's worth noting that one of the reasons Katie got sued was that she made a similar mistake and refused to apologise.

BTW ttbn, everything else I've said stands, and I don't think I've ever driven on Sudholz Road.

Are you sure you have the right person this time, Aidan?

You can forget any apology. As P.G Wodehouse said: “It is a good rule in life never to apologise. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them".

Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Anyone can enter or alter material.

First sentence: you know nothing of the kind

Second sentence: you are just speculating.

Third sentence: so suspected jihadist are OK?

Who said it was anything to do with local police? Brussels is responsible.

Finally, I cannot remember you denouncing terrorism at at all. And, terrorists are civilians just the same as ordinary Muslims, whose efforts for jihad are obviously not going to be obvious. If you did some research you would find that immigration to the West is part of jihad; the mad mullahs freely admit this; the mad Western politicians cover their ears, just like you do. They and and probably 80% of Westerners don't want to hear. Much easier for you all to bury your heads in the sand and hope it goes away. It won't go away, and it's getting close to being too late to do anything about it. However, I accept that it's a waste of time telling this to people like you. Hopefully, more intelligent and rational people are getting the message. There is a world outside OLO.

Diver Dan, you, like me must live in one of the more fortunate areas of Oz, yet to feel much effect of Muslim "integration". Unfortunately, my son has not.

He was living in Allawah Sydney when the Muslims decided to make it their next enclave & started converting it to a no go area for European descent Ozzies.

He was attacked by 4 of them one afternoon walking home from the railway station, the resultant kicking resulted in 4 skull fractures. If a couple of passing cars had not stopped, to chase this vermin off, he would probably be a vegetable now.

During his last 3 months in Sydney, he was staying with a friend who still lives in the area. One afternoon the pair were followed by a group of young adult male vermin, making threatening gestures & shouting threats. 6 of them were not enough to actually attack 2 young men, but the threat is obvious & on going, get out or come to harm.

You may be still able to ignore this threat to our wellbeing, but I will not, & it is only a matter of time that you will be unable to. It is probably too late to stop our major cities will become south Pacific versions of Beirut, & the fools of our world are welcome to it.

Really, their impact on Australia is insignificant
Diver Dan,
I recall people in the old country saying exactly what you're saying. I also recall getting ridiculed as a teenager when I aired my then thoughts on this issue.
You know what they all say to me now ? "you had the sense to leave".

Just like you they too didn't think past last weekend when nothing happened. Just like you they kept themselves feeling good by refusing to see what's actually happening. It's not too late yet here but it will be soon. As some intelligent poster wrote recently on a forum "the ones we see are only the tip of the iceberg".
You really should look up what they getting brainwashed with & it's not very considerate towards westerners. Do not fall into the same trap as the Europeans did 50 years ago.

Individual.

Your whole post is anecdotal nonsense. You refer to Pakistani Muslims in Britain I take it, (since you conveniently left out that fact from your post, I'll assume it is).

I'll put it to you, your real gripe is that Muslims are the poorest and thus in the highest average of the unemployed in the UK. Welcomed on the one hand as factory fodder, and rejected on the other as flotsam and jetsam, as factories closed and moved off shore.

They, along with huge numbers of Christian white working class, ended up commonly in the rust belts of the deindustrialised West, from the late seventies. All this for the advancement of industrialising China, with its slave labour employment conditions.
That's the same Chinese now roaming the world cashing in on our combined losses of jobs and future prospects, by leaving the working classes of the West landless and penny less.

Hasbeen

I worked in Arncliffe and lived in Kogarah for a time during the Turkish immigration highs.
It never stopped me moving freely. (I'll put that in the anecdotal basket, with your sons experiences).

How long ago was that Diver.

My sons attack was almost 4 years ago, but the latest episode just 5 months ago.

ttbn,
>Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Anyone can enter or alter material.
That was the case when it was new, but they've developed procedures to address that problem. And crucially, most of the content is referenced with links you can check yourself. I daresay Wikipedia is now more accurate than any publication Katie Hopkins has ever worked for!

>First sentence: you know nothing of the kind
I watched the Schepmans-Hopkins interview. Schepmans explained why it wasn't her job, but Hopkins seemed to be too outraged to take it in.

>Second sentence: you are just speculating.
Speculation that's based on watching the interview, whereas your speculation appears baseless.

I subsequently checked her site again and found the list was FROM BELGIAN SECURITY SERVICES - which I think debunks your assumption that she, and she alone, had it and failed to pass it on.

>Third sentence: so suspected jihadist are OK?
Not at all. But the local police not investigating them was (without the benefit of hindsight) OK, as it was the job of the Federal police.

>Who said it was anything to do with local police? Brussels is responsible.
I told you she's the mayor of Molenbeek, not Brussels.

>Finally, I cannot remember you denouncing terrorism at at all.
Well my position has been entirely consistent despite your imagining me saying otherwise.

>And, terrorists are civilians just the same as ordinary Muslims,
No, once they become terrorists they cease to be civilians.

diver dan,
what you consider being nonsense is fact in the real world. Why single out Pakistanis in England when I'm referring to the goings-on in Europe. Perhaps it suits your agenda.
The whole idiotic show started rolling when greedy Europeans imported gast arbeiter (guest workers) from the eurasian countries because they were cheap, a bit like greedy Australians are doing now with 457 Visas.
What allows that to flourish ? The insane tax system is playing perfectly into the hands of those who want to control it all for some superstitious ideaology. We all blame our politicians all the time & yes they do have a huge share in it but it really is the flaws in our Law that is the catalyst.
The all encompassing factor is stupidity.

Individual.

*what you consider being nonsense is fact in the real world. Why single out Pakistanis in England when I'm referring to the goings-on in Europe. Perhaps it suits your agenda.*

I single out Pakistanis since I'm still left to assume you refer to the UK. (Part of Europe) .
Stump up and say which country you left behind.
It is nonsense to claim as many do, that it is Muslims who create problems such as terrorism, because of their Islamic religion.

It is, on the other hand, true to claim that Muslims are generally captured in the lower socioeconomic positions in society. Same applies to Australia.
My agenda is to instil a little more truth in the debate. It is true to say that radicalised Muslim youth are captured by Islamic nut cases, to perform the narrow minded deeds of radical elements in Islam.

It is not true to assume all Muslims will perform acts of terror, or similar socially destabilising activity inside their host societies. That is a patently false view.

It is in my view, an act of cowardice to harass Muslims such as their women in shopping centres, to the point where it is necessary for them to be chaperoned by a male minder, or to only venture out in groups for protection. This is Australia.

I await your answer on what part of Europe you refer to Re; escaping the Muslim hoards.

Hasbeen.

Short answer, some years ago, at the beginning of mass immigration programmes.
There are numerous places around Sydney I would be reluctant to walk for fear of attack.
One that springs to mind is Redfern, which of course, is nothing to do with Muslims.

diver dan,
the answer to your question is from a country bordering Germany. I went back in the early 2000's & all was fine. Meanwhile the situation changed dramatically though & my old school mates & neighbors keep me informed & it was that info I based my statement on.
Google some of the quotes inferring to the hoped for fate for us infidels by those whose superstition based activities you excuse.

Individual.

In a country of so few Muslims, (Europe), you vastly exaggerate any threat they pose to the 98% of their fellow citizens. In Australia, that number would be 99.9%.

The real threat to the West, appears on the Eastern horizon in the form of 4’6” clones riding chequebook ponies, under a red flag.

diver dan,
who's side are you on ? Can't you score a sheilah here, need to make life a misery for others to get your grubby fingers onto those 72 virgins ?

To that pathetic “individual”.

If I had my way, it would not include any virgins. I would have you exported to Qatar for reeducation.

And may Europe fall to the whip of fundamentalist Islam, as punishment for desertion of its Christian morality and embrace of secularism.

A fitting reward!

diver dan,
Many people have given everything for this Nation to move out of the dark ages yet those who are permanetly holding out their hands for undeserved charity are hell-bent on re-introducing the yoke of mindlessness. Is that the kind of reward you're thinking of for those who give you a life ?

The lost "individual"

You are still floundering around in the bottom of the barrel on this one; true.

What Nation on what side of the German border are we now referring to, as being the beholder of largesse, given so selflessly to the undeserving hordes of welfare cheats?

Could the answer be, the same destroyers of conservative values, waving rainbow flags and heralding debauchery as a gift of equality? Germany itself as example?

Or maybe the same debauched non thinkers from the Vatican, fooling themselves into believing humanism, love and respect are an attribute to be recognised among homosexuals, to be an all encompassing quality, surpassing even the love of God, by entrenching reprobates among the priestly representatives of his Church? Be grateful to those destroyers of wisdom and worship too?

One undeniable truth of Islam, it stands steadfast in its principals of morality, and tolerates not a step left or right! Bring it on

diver dan,
you've been undwater for too long. Back to Channel 16.

Individual (not).

What's love got to do with it?

Could you please enlighten us infidels what reward lies in wait for the female martyrs? Will they get to enjoy the company of 72 men ? I don't mean this lightly or with any sarcasm, I really have never heard of what the females have to look forward to after one of those deeds.
And what is the promise to the children who are used by those not inclined to do the deed themselves ?