ALTRAV,

I missed your post about the Kiwi bloke who was born here, he's my local member and I know him fairly well.
He genuinely thought that he was an Aussie only and he was/is an Australian citizen but he just got caught out through not doing sufficient research or asking someone; as a dual citizen myself and having researched the matter many years ago, I could have put him right.

Paul,

The Sarah Hanson-Young that you mention, is she the same Sarah Hanson-Young that thought that the TV drama "Sea Patrol" was real life?
Is she the one that they call "Sea Patrol Sarah"?

Not directly related to women in government, but women on boards and calls for quotas, I just been listening to Alan Jones talking to Janet Albrechtsen who is hot on unqualified women being put on boards just because the are women. The female chair AMP who was forced to resign after the RC on banks was one mentioned who should never have been appointed in the first place. Albrechtsen, a very smart women herself, reckons these dizzy dames are costing us a mint with their incompetence.

Careful there ttbn, you know facts don't sit too well with many on this site. The next thing you know you will be called sexist lol!

Unfortunately for some of the male members of the forum they find strong assertive women a threat to their egos, and their already weak and submissive positions in society. A woman with an intellect is something they simply can not handle. They most likely have been dominated by women of stronger character since birth, firstly by their mothers, and then later by their wives. These under achievers are easily identified by their demands that women should know their place.
When you read //Politics, like many other male pursuits, is no place for women// and //men ARE the better choice for these positions// You know the poster is feeling that any support for women would undermine their own already perilous position. They certainly feel threatened.

Paul, how do you come up with these pearls of wisdom? Is it so hard for you and your followers to understand pure logic? I'll make it easier for you. I don't care about women in this or that position. Again it's real simple. Women are pushing their agenda because THEY feel they are missing out on the glamour and social standing THEY believe men have. So THEY too want the 'look at moy' factor. They have used PC to promote their cause, and people like you, the weak ones, for not having the stones to be honest with them and instead encourage or even facilitate them. To what end, I don't know. Are you trying to keep in good with the missus? By comparison, my missus is a 'A' grade academic having had scholarships and......anyway this is only relevant because she is one of the capable ones YOU are promoting or referring to. She has her own opinion and she agrees with me. Before she became pregnant she had a leading position in environmental science at one of our universities. Once she fell pregnant she quite her job and became a mother and we ended up raising two more A grade academics, now both high up in accounting. CFO, tax etc. This was possible because SHE, not ME, took on the role and responsibility of raising the family. I was the disciplinarian. I was focused on my responsibility, and it was to provide for my family. Having done things OUR way we have done pretty well. BTW the decision for my wife to stop work and look after the family was not discussed. It was the natural next step for both of us. She has never looked back and has always felt that while a woman should work when they are young, it teaches them and exposes them to life, they must respect the fact that they are women first and as such creating children and nurturing them is their priority in life, not becoming some wannabee exec. There are more than enough men for those roles.

to continue..........

I once heard a woman (did not hear what she did) being interviewed and one of the points she made was 'women have to understand, trying to juggle work and family, does not work. By trying to do so means that she is only giving each of her charges 50% of her time and attention instead of 100% to one or the other'. We all know which one she should be attending to. It is the height of arrogance for women to expect to be hired simply because of some sick irrational sense of entitlement. Here's a thought. I hear people complain about kids today. Gee, could it be that Mom's not around because 'she is a person too' and 'has a life'. Well you snowflakes, when you decided it was 'time' to have a child, you should have decided to also make the time to raise a child, and not fit them in between board meetings and whatever more important issues you decided to put before your child and your true life. And there is the uncut version we all know is true but too gutless to say it for fear of peer rejection.