Dear Is Mise,

This is such a controversial issue and such
an emotive one.

I want to say word about pollies. For all those people who have an innocent, (it actually means, ignorant) view about pollies and how they are there to do our bidding, you are partly right. Very, very few of them actually think they are going into the big chamber, stand up, say a few words and hey presto, their wish is immediately enshrined in law and they can then go around spruiking their success. Well it's actually nothing like that. In fact it's quite disappointing and frustratingly egregious. Why? Because pollies represent a wide range of people and mind sets. It is not possible to reach consensus in a democracy. Never has been. You've only to follow a forum or two, and there is the evidence. So for a polly to get there way, they have to shmooze any number of other pollies. To do that they have to compromise on something the other pollies want passed. And so the dirty deals begin and this once naive, innocent polly is now turned and become a snake just like the rest of them. They have no choice, if they want to simply remain in their seat. Remember you have to satisfy the rest of your party and demonstrate that you are a 'team' player, so that when the leader says he needs you to vote one way or another, if you don't follow through, you are through. So it goes for a woman to be of any use to the party, she has to 'get down and dirty'. If a woman can do that, then she is no woman. That's a main reason I don't get this folly of women wanting to 'mix it' with the men. I also regard the fact that we have to change our way of interacting with each other, as men, to accommodate, the intrusion of women. I express the same anger as having to take down pictures of naked women in the work place as the Muslims telling us to take down symbols of religion.
If you don't concur then you're the problem not me.

Foxy, I doubt we will ever see anyone of any real worth in the top jobs, simply because those who have their feathers rustled also get to vote and, we now have a situation where they vote for those who annoy them the least. There are so many scams now operating under the welfare banner and as a result we must have close to the oldest students in the world. These so called 'students' in some cases need only complete one module per year in some cases to stay on the public tit. In fact, many are border line unemployable yet we continue to throw money at a broken system. As for pay gender gap, a barrister is worth what they command, regardless of their gender and, if a client chooses a male in favour of a female that's life. I still say the only way you can fairly gage the pay gap is to compare apples with apples. Hours worked, productivity results and performance outcomes. Females are handicapped because of their motherly duties which is I guess unfair, but its life.

rehctub, your right, although you won't get any women to agree because anything that would prove them wrong, will not be entertained. In fact they won't even admit that it was written. It appears that when they speak it is gospel and all they say is the way it is. Anyone challenging them and in fact anyone decrying them is either totally ignored or totally criticised, in the most egregious manner possible and let's not forget how we get vilified, as well. I may differ from the rest of the commentors, in that I object to women in traditional male jobs, period. There are so many reasons, I have only scratched the surface, on this forum. The pro women camp has put up such things as, times are changing. Yes, for the worst. 'Women' and men apparently are 'choosing' to.......who cares? They can choose all they want just because there are a handfull of selfish, self indulgent little fairies, does in no way justifying a major social push/change by a handfull of these nuisances. We must have clear and defined terms of reference, boundaries and limits, in all matters to do with life and people. Simply giving in to these whims of superiority is not the answer. I'll go so far as to draw people's attention to the fact that our problems began when we allowed women to have a say, drive, or vote. They speak in terms of equality and want equal rights to men. Before you can say that, you need to be aware and respectful of men, not just push your way through demanding equality, as if we are not relevant. I reject any and all laws that weaken my position as a man. This is the only way they can get their way. The only way I would consider a woman in a mans role, even then it would not be a physical role, is if, as in during the war, men were scarce back home, so women were used to do certain jobs. In my view, the norm is; the man is the 'front line'.

Sorry, forgot to split my sentences again. My bad.

Dear Rehctub,

I've just read your post addressed to me with interest.

Talking about women being "handicapped." Here's a
joke that you may appreciate:

A woman and a man are involved in a car accident.
Both of their cars are totally demolished but amazingly
neither of them are hurt.

After they crawl out of their cars, the woman says,
"Wow, just look at our cars! There's nothing left
but fortunately we're not hurt. It's a miracle!"

The man agrees.

"And look at this - here's another miracle. My car is
completely destroyed but this bottle of wine didn't break.
Surely we must drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune?"

She then hands the bottle to the man. The man nods his head in
agreement opens the bottle and takes a few very large swigs
from the bottle and then hands it back to the woman.

The woman takes the bottle and immediately puts the cap back
on and hands it back to the man. The man asks,
"Aren't you having any?"

The woman replies, "No. I think I'll just wait for the police."