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Is freedom of speech being denied
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Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 23 April 2018 4:02:33 PM
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Hi Loudmouth
I am saddened by unbelief but not offended. The offer of eternal life is for all. People can mock, ridicule or whatever. Unlike Marxist thought police people can choose their own belief system based on reason, irrationality or ignorance. You can't 'force' someone into believing or following Christ. People have tried that with bad results just like the left shove their irrational garbage down people's throat (eg you are born that way). Posted by runner, Monday, 23 April 2018 4:12:16 PM
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Thanks Runner,
I was just trying to establish the boundaries of who is, and who isn't, in support of freedom of speech. So in that sense at least, I'm honoured to suggest that you and I are on the same page :) In a roundabout way, this relates to the Good Samaritan parable, which i believe is probably the most wonderful story, true or not it doesn't really matter, in the bible. Would Christ support the freedom of expression today ? I think so. Would he have supported the head of the multinational capitalist firm, Qantas ? Maybe not, but he would certainly have empathy for him. And supported his right to his point of view, as you and I do. On the other hand, to give him some credit, would Marx ? I think so too, i think he would have learnt a lot since 1883. They both would have so much to offer in terms of human values. Best wishes, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 23 April 2018 5:30:02 PM
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I wonder what Jesus would make of Todd Carney weeing in his mouth.
Marx too, for that matter. Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 23 April 2018 6:36:21 PM
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Hi Toni,
God almighty, as an old person, I still can't get used to how quick you can find information. This would have taken an entire day thirty or forty years ago. Using Google, it took about a minute. In relation to Mr Carney peeing in his own mouth, you could check this: http://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/pissing-in-my-own-mouth-was-a-victimless-crime-is-todd-carney-the-nrl-scapegoat-3/ I'm not sure of the connection to this thread: are you suggesting that, being rugby players, both Folau and Carney committed some sort of equivalently heinous crime ? Does Todd Carney have the right to piss into his own mouth ? Not being a lawyer, I would naively suggest that yes, he does, if he wishes: such fetishes don't harm anybody else, after all. But I suppose, from your perspective, this all has something to do with freedom of expression, but perhaps on another, much lower, level. Perhaps we could start a campaign, in support of Todd Carney's right to piss into his own mouth ? Perhaps Get Up ! could raise funs for it. And a protest march. Imagine the slogans: 'Whadda we want ? 'To piss in our own mouths !' 'When do we wannit ?' 'NOW !' Then at least some of us could get back to the more important business of defending each other's rights to genuine and meaningful freedom of expression, hopefully at a somewhat higher plane. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 23 April 2018 6:56:51 PM
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Watch it Issy, I'll have the Popey fire his Missal at you! Then you'll know it! Anyway, Wombat season is over, did you take out the Tony Azzi Memorial Trophy for the third year running? Next week sees the start of the unofficial Koala Blast, as declared by the Shooters and Hooters. Bag yourself a swag of the fury varmints before they are all gone.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 4:58:49 AM
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Does it offend or upset you that some of us aren't believers ? Would you campaign to have us silenced or jailed ? I'm happy to support your right to believe what you like and to let others know it, in return for my right - and Paul's too - to do the same :)
Seriously, I'm just wondering. Does un-belief offend you ? To the point where you would like it banned and its adherents silenced in some way ? Or would you support everybody's right to express their beliefs freely ?
Cheers,
Joe