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Toni Lavis. Are you seriously suggesting all the stories regarding eourope and terrorism are made up? Or the stories of increased crimes are not true? I've seen these kinds of reports from various sources and they all ain't the same picture.

Here, from within this site is a discussion regarding the reports within Germany during 2017.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8111&page=1

Should this also be ignored as fake news? The problem for Iftichar needing to show the peacefulness of Islam is a real problem. No one is going to believe that Islam is the religion of peace with the news coverage showing how much it is not peaceful. It's not just Fox News.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 24 March 2018 1:49:36 AM
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//Are you seriously suggesting all the stories regarding eourope and terrorism are made up?//

No, they aren't all made up. Of course there have been terrorist attacks in Europe... there have been in the US as well. The situation across the pond is really not so different from America's as you seem to imagine it to be, although to be fair to the Europeans they don't shoot up their own schools as often as you mob.

//Or the stories of increased crimes are not true?//

They're not true in Britain, where crime rates continue to fall consistent with a long term trend. Though not, of course, with all categories of crime. That's usually the way it goes with crime stats.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2017

//Now it suffers greatly with rampent crime, and violence that was not there like it is now.//

And that is absolute bollocks. I keep a fairly close eye on current affairs in Britain, and I've got a mate who works over there for most of the year (I don't talk to him much when he's over there, but we catch up during the summer). The sources from within Britain all tell the same story: they're all a lot more bothered about the economic impacts Brexit than the 'rampant crime and violence' that is apparently running riot on their streets.

It dominates public discussion like no other subject. If they were suffering greatly with rampant crime and violence, don't you think they'd be a bit more concerned with the break down of law order in their country than some economic negotiations with the EU? When you're living in fear of roaming gangs of thugs outside your house, I think you'd probably be so preoccupied by the clear and present danger to your physical well-being that you wouldn't have any attention to devote to anything else....
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 24 March 2018 9:22:59 AM
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And yet the Brits, it seems, are worried about everything but that: Brexit negotiations, the Premier league, Theresa May's poor perfromance as Prime Minister, East Enders, first world problems... the sort of stuff that you haven't have the luxury to care about when living a safe and comfortable life.

Hey, maybe they're just all crazy, or suicidally unflappable. Or maybe, just maybe, they know something about what life is like in Britain that you don't.

It's a similar story with Sweden. I have Swedish relatives, one being a female cousin a couple of years older than me. I asked her a while ago if she was concerned going out, what with Sweden being the 'rape capital of the world'. She quite reasonably assumed I was joking until I sent her a few links... after which she was absolutely dumbfounded. It was fine, she assured me. She also cast her doubt on the likelihood of the people who produce/swallow these kind of stories ever having spoken to a Swede, visited Sweden, being able to understand Swedish, and in the case of the producers, possessing any kind of journalistic integrity.

So there's some of that anecdotal evidence you love so much, from people who live in those countries. I don't have any anecdotes for Germany or France (although I do have relatives over there too, I just don't talk to them much) or the rest of the EU. But here's some articles you might like:

http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sharia-law-muslim-no-go-zones/
http://www.snopes.com/news/2017/04/05/crime-sweden-three-part-series/

And some podcasts:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09wchzx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09w32bj

//Here, from within this site is a discussion regarding the reports within Germany during 2017.//

You know what's better than listening to a bunch of Aussies talk about Germany? Ask a German. There's plenty of 'em, they're friendly and polite and I'm sure they'll be happy to answer your questions and they usually speak very good English. Just try to steer clear of the nutters this time... you have a terrible tendency to be unskeptical of nutters.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 24 March 2018 9:23:50 AM
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'Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling.' U r right on this one Iffi. Secularism/Marxism is a putried religion. The late Hawkins said that heaven was made up for those scared of the dark. Jesus demonstrated that atheism is certainly made up for those afraid of the Light hence they side with Islam and its darkness rather than Christ. Look at the revolting narratives and perversions pushed by the abc/bbc.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 24 March 2018 9:47:49 AM
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runner: The late Hawkins said that heaven was made up for those scared of the dark. Jesus demonstrated that atheism is certainly made up for those afraid of the Light hence they side with Islam and its darkness rather than Christ.

What a crock o' Shite, runner. I certainly don't support Islam, much the opposite, & I sure no other atheist's do either. Rabid Christianity is your thing & Rabid Islam is theirs. Same Coin, different face. One a little shinier than the other at the moment, that's all.

I do take offence at being told that, because I'm am atheist, I support Islam. Grrrrrrr!
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 24 March 2018 11:48:10 AM
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Want to visit France ?
Here is a list of 751 Zone Sensibles (no go areas) that the French
government advises people not to visit.

http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/atlas/ZUS/

And the greens are happy for moslems to come here.
Latest information suggests that in Paris these zones are starting to join up as they get larger.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 24 March 2018 6:10:30 PM
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