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Dear Is Mise,

I remember flying into Los Angeles and not being able to see
due to a brown thick blanket covering the entire landscape
down below.
Also my eyes watering for days because it took me a while to
get used to the smog, and then one morning waking up to a
bright clear day for a change and from our
apartment lounge room window seeing mountains and discovering
something that had been there all along but
\which we hadn't been able to see previously - due to the smog.
I remember listening to the "smog alerts" given to us daily
via news forecasts. And then the incident of a woman's body
being found by police in Griffith Park - on the news, and being
told that they knew she wasn't from Los Angeles because her
lungs were too clear
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 24 March 2018 5:53:55 PM
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Dear mhaze,

No don't put me into the "anti-transparency" phase.
Instead put me into "anti BS." That would be more
appropriate.

The following links explain:

http://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/scott-pruitt-promises/

And -

http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/1/26/16936104/epa-trump-toxic-air-pollution
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 24 March 2018 5:59:51 PM
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Foxy if you aren't in the pro-transparency group, you are in the pro-bulldust group.

Let me assure you that CO2 does not cause smog. It does not make your eyes water, & in fact you are producing quite a bit of it yourself.

In places with the unfortunate geographical position of Los Angeles, car exhausts can be a problem. For 40 years now California has had local admission standards to help mitigate this problem, & this is the sort of thing the EPA should be doing.

Trying to push an agenda with secret & corrupt science is not. I expect clowns like steely to be all for using any lie to push their ideology, but I did think you were more likely to want to know the truth.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 24 March 2018 7:32:29 PM
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Foxy,

That reminds me of flying into Mumbai. as we approached the pilot said, "...and visibility in Mumbai is (pause) well, it's Mumbai!"

Even there, though, things are improving and on my last visit (last year) I actually saw the stars, the heavenly ones not the Bollywood variety.

Six years ago we stayed with friends in the Bandra area of Mumbai.
He is a top executive with an international company and as such has an apartment provided as part of his package, said apt. took up the entire top floor of a five-story building and it wasn't until the second day that we saw the ocean from our bedroom window.

The previous day the air pollution was so heavy that the sea was hidden and it was less than 200 yards away and in full uninterrupted view. We'd been advised to stay indoors the day before as their air conditioning had fairly efficient filters.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 24 March 2018 8:05:22 PM
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Gentlemen,

I'll take on board what you guys are stating.
However, seeing as you admit that the pollution
control laws have helped many places in many countries,
and cities like Mumbai and Los Angeles, then surely
you have to agree that Mr Scott Pruitt's undoing of
as many regulations protecting the environment and
public health as possible and maximising fossil fuel
industry profits is at best rather questionable, at best.

You're welcome.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 25 March 2018 10:47:18 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Accusing me of lying? My goodness I had better review my last post.

Are you an old coot? Check.

Does scott Pruitt take donations in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the fossil fuel industry? Check

Is he rescinding regulations that will make his benefactors millions if not billions in extra profits? Well don't take my word for it take his;

“In year one, EPA finalized 22 deregulatory actions, saving Americans more than $1 billion in regulatory costs.”

By 'Americans' he of course means corporate Americans.

Check.

Like you has he brought into the Cult of Trump or has he remained independent as any statutory authority should?

Once again in his own words;

“We have been hard at work enacting President Donald Trump's agenda during my first year as EPA Administrator. His courage and leadership have been key to our success. From his decision to exit the Paris Accord to his executive order empowering EPA to review and rescind the Clean Power Plan, the President is delivering on his promises and getting results for the American people.”
http://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2018-03/documents/year_in_review_3.5.18.pdf

Gosh. I think you might have to take a cheek each when you are on your knees behind your president. Pucker up boys!

Check.

I'm at a loss. Perhaps you should show me where I have lied to save some time.

Seriously though this is the type of swamp rat you use to loath. Why are you now polishing his turds?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 25 March 2018 5:23:47 PM
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