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Just how brilliant are Trump & Pruitt, his US EPA director.

They have just announced that the EPA will no longer accept secret science, unpublished garbage that has driven its direction under the Obama lot. Only published science, with full data & methodology open to all to evaluate, will be used in setting policy.

No longer can activists get away with hiding their data, if they want to participate, & by inference get government grants. Their findings will have to be published so they can be replicated, or disproven by anyone who is interested.

As we all know the whole thing has been driven by the "hide the decline" brigade, who's conclusions could never stand up to scrutiny. With this requirement the scam is now destined for the dust bin of history, to nestle with others like the stomach ulcer & Y2K bug.

What a brilliant way of making the scam promoters jump off the gravy train by choice, or be shown up for what they are. They will be jumping off just as quickly as they can. That train will be so empty, it won't need a cent of taxpayer funds.

Any one noticed that swamp level is disappearing increasingly quickly?
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 7:38:24 PM
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Dear Hassie,

Actually, I have a different picture of Mr Pruitt from the
one you've described:

http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/1/29/16684952/epa-scott-pruitt-director-regulations
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:55:21 PM
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Has been Unfortunately Mr Turnbull believes in the nonsense. With the most resources and almost the highest electricity prices you would think people would of woken up to the false religion. I suspect many of the getup clowns have been through uni and still push the gw lies. We really need a Trump like figure to drain the swamp. Dutton could be the man?
Posted by runner, Thursday, 22 March 2018 1:29:03 PM
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The new rules are certainly welcome and the new administration deserves credit for introducing them. But just to be clear, its not a new idea. Its been argued for over the past two or more decades going all the way back to the times when the data was ignored so as to demonise DDT and data was tortured to allow some to claim that second hand smoke was a problem.

The notion that the EPA should be able to introduce costly and business-killing rules based on research that can't be checked is absurd. There can be and has been only one reason to hide the data and that is that its not at all as strong as the EPA claims.

That's why they now pout that there will be less regulation ie if they have to prove their case using publicly available data, they have a much harder time doing so.

So yet another win for the US economy courtesy of the new broom in the EPA.

In other good news on the climate front, "Federal Judge Dismissed Claim Of A Conspiracy To Suppress Global Warming Science"....
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/21/federal-judge-conspiracy-exxon-chevron/
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 22 March 2018 5:33:25 PM
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It bears remembering that Pruit heads the Environmental
Protection Agency. It's easy to forget this as the man
seems to think its his job to undo as many regulations
protecting the environment and public health as possible
and to maximise fossil fuel industry profits. That's clear
from his constant peddling of climate myths and misinformation.

There is no consistency at all to his various arguments other
than we should continue to burn fossil fuels. Pruit's job is
to protect human and environmental health and it is hard to
imagine anyone doing the job any worse. Read the link I gave
in my previous post.

BTW - under the Obama Administration the Environmental
Protection Agency regulated carbon pollution because it was
legally required to do so under the Clean Air Act - according
to the Supreme Court. That's not being "weaponised" against
fossil fuels - it's called enforcing the law to protect
America's health.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 March 2018 6:25:20 PM
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People should also be made aware that Pruitt is a climate
change denier (he also does not believe in evolution -
but that's another story). Pruitt has sued the agency
he now leads (EPA) more than a dozen times as
Oklahoma's Attorney General. He rejects clear and
compelling scientific evidence and is determined to make
it as difficult as possible for compelling independent
scientific research to continue. That is a dangerous
person to have running things especially when making public
policy. Embracing ignorance is not an option.

However, this is today's America under Donald Trump.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 March 2018 6:47:25 PM
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