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Posted by Jayb, Friday, 16 March 2018 4:51:02 PM
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Jayb, you obviously don’t understand how the public hospital system works. Paediatricians don’t have drawers full of drugs to hand out. It’s rare any drug rep gets to even see a public hospital doctor. Our clinics contained no drugs whatsoever, all medications were by prescription only at whichever chemist the patient preferred.
As for the teachers, well, it’s a strange coincidence that they immediately could recognise which days the drug hadn’t been given before school isn’t it? As I have already stated, most of these kids could manage without drugs if they had stable, structured homes to live in, but they don’t, so drugs are the only solution. If we could find a way to stop single women having multiple children they can’t afford or care for properly, then this problem would be greatly reduced, as the majority of these kids come from poor, single mother homes with no positive male role model. Posted by Big Nana, Friday, 16 March 2018 5:39:43 PM
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Big Nanna: Paediatricians don’t have drawers full of drugs to hand out.
But Private Doctors do, & they do & They get a quite little Kick Back along with the Chemist. Big Nanna: it’s a strange coincidence that they immediately could recognise which days the drug hadn’t been given before school isn’t it? All the Ritalin in the World won't help them if they've downed 6 cans of "V" just before School. Big Nanna: As I have already stated, most of these kids could manage without drugs if they had stable, structured homes to live in, Agreed. Big Nanna: but they don’t, so drugs are the only solution. Or take them off all Artificial Flavouring & ban Energy Drinks from the known ones. Although they've tried that & it failed. There was a restriction of "One per Man," But that didn't work because they'd turn up with a gang & get everyone to buy them one can. That way they could get high before School. So how is the Teacher going to tell if the child hasn't had their Medicine or is loaded with Energy Drinks? Quandary? You betcha. Big Nanna: If we could find a way to stop single women having multiple children they can’t afford or care for properly, I can say I couldn't count on both my hands the amount of Girls who have got pregnant so they don't have to work & get paid. A couple around here just recently. "I don't want a job." Posted by Jayb, Friday, 16 March 2018 7:27:12 PM
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//As I have already stated, most of these kids could manage without drugs if they had stable, structured homes to live in, but they don’t, so drugs are the only solution.
If we could find a way to stop single women having multiple children they can’t afford or care for properly, then this problem would be greatly reduced, as the majority of these kids come from poor, single mother homes with no positive male role model.// No, that is bollocks. If a person as ADHD, they will benefit from methylphenidate regardless of what their home life is like. But if they don't have any medical conditions for which methylphenidate is indicated, there's no reason to prescribe it. If they have behavioural issues because their folks are deadbeat housos but no ADHD, methylphenidate won't help. But it might cause harm because no drug is without side effects. Which is why in cases where the behavioural issues are due to lousy home life rather than ADHD, methylpehnidate is contraindicated. Giving children drugs for conditions they don't have is pointless, expensive, unethical and potentially dangerous. Any physician doing so is committing malpractice. http://www.adhdaustralia.org.au/about-adhd/what-is-attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd/ Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 17 March 2018 8:09:59 AM
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Isn't it amazing how ADHD has only come to our attention since schools were forced to stop punishment of troublesome kids.
I have no idea which natural chemical cure was released from a kids brain, or elsewhere, when standing in front of the headmasters office, waiting for that punishment, six of the best by his cane, but whatever it was it worked. There were of course in my day, dumb kids who didn't want to be at school, & who were unlikely to be profiting from school, just like today. However the thought of that six of the best had at least as much calming effect as any modern drug. Give schools back the power of punishment for bad behaviour, & you can scrap most of these drugs. The world will be a better place too, as young adults will have learnt to control their impulses, while standing in front of the heads office. Perhaps this was the best leason schools ever gave. Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 17 March 2018 10:01:55 AM
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@has been
Almost 100 years ago, Will Rogers famously said "schools ain't what they ued to be and they never were". There has been a change in the way students view teachers and authority in general. However, there never was a golden age of well-behaved children There always has been some kids who struggle to sit and work in a classroom. As Big Nana says, without the drugs, these kids are unable to function in the classroom. Giving kids drugs might make us uncomfortable, but it allows them to get an education. Posted by benk, Monday, 19 March 2018 7:48:29 PM
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Depends on how much the Drug Distributor is handing out.
Big Nanna: they could swiftly tell the difference when a child didn’t get their medication.
Can they also tell how much "V" or other Hypo Drinks they've had before School?