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Voting above the line? Read this.
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Posted by tapp, Thursday, 26 July 2007 7:56:44 PM
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Freedriver, as Stuart Ulrich, Independent Candidate for Charlton, makes clear read the Debates.
If you desire to have "common sense" used then you are free to pursue a referendum where you can argue that the Commonwealth of Australia is entitled to ignore the RULE OF LAW (CONSTITUTION) where it by its political views deem "COMMON SENSE" requires whatever they may desire at the time. Without successful REFERENDUM, you simply have to accept the RULE OF LAW, even if you do not like it. When I was a candidate for the seat of Swan Hill (Mallee) many a farmer complained that they did not use WATER other then what they themselves caught with their dams yet still had nevertheless to pay thousands of dollars to water authorities. "Common sense" would hold this is ridiculous, but the RULE OF LAW required them to pay it. As such, if we apply "COMMON SENSE" as whatever every person for themselves may deem it stands for, then why have any laws at all? After all, what may be “COMMON SENSE” for one may be completely the opposite to another! The Constitution does not permit for some candidates to hold a “mini election” but only provides for one election! “common sense dictates to get rid of all politicians so as to avoid the huge cost and the fraudulent conduct by them, but “common sense” also dictates that we need someone to be in charge of Departments, as that is constitutionally required. I suggest you check out my blog at http://au.360.yahoo.com/profile-ijpxwMQ4dbXm0BMADq1lv8AYHknTV_QH and my website at http://www.schorel-hlavka.com and you may just get some better perception as to what is so wrong and why we need to reclaim our constitutional and other legal rights and hold judges and politicians accountable Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Friday, 27 July 2007 2:07:20 AM
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"If you desire to have "common sense" used then you are free to pursue a referendum where you can argue that the Commonwealth of Australia is entitled to ignore the RULE OF LAW
That's just silly. You would just hold a referendum to change the cosntitution where it is lacking. "Common sense" would hold this is ridiculous No it wouldn't. Farmers do not have the right to destroy natural water courses and stop the rivers flowing. "The Constitution does not permit for some candidates to hold a “mini election” but only provides for one election! What mini election are you talking about? If you mean preselection, the suggestion that the constitution forbids that is absurd. "common sense dictates to get rid of all politicians so as to avoid the huge cost and the fraudulent conduct by them No it doesn't. Posted by freediver, Friday, 27 July 2007 11:31:27 AM
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Freediver you sound like a pollie
Nows that something isnt right but stuff it Read the debates Stuart Ulrich Independent Candidate for Charlton Posted by tapp, Friday, 27 July 2007 1:43:41 PM
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Freediver,
For your patience you deserve a medal. As Winston Churchill once said, the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Sad but true. Cheers Posted by Kalin1, Thursday, 9 August 2007 3:30:33 PM
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If one has not read the debates behind the constitution then one should do so.
It is these debates that created the constitution and why.
This also includes rights
As I have said before
our
Govenor General is constitutionally corrupt and inept
Australian Electoral Commission is constitutionally corrupt and inept
Political parties are constitutionally corrupt and inept
Parliamentarians are constitutionally corrupt and inept
So since i am not in court yet I am correct, and the constitution says I am correct.
So FD one should go through the debates and understand before going the high horse.
If you do not want it right do it you way,
But
If you want it right the peoples way, then the constitution is required reading.
You can go via
www.aph.gov.au
do a search
put in constitutional debates
collection change to constitution
one will find 97 debates there.
Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton