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The 7 year lie.

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On this day in 2011, Julia Gillard broke her promise that there would be 'no carbon tax' in any government she would lead and did dirty deal with the grubby Greens, which was the beginning of sky-rocketing electricity prices; and, consequently, increases in the cost of doing business, loss of Australian competitiveness – with no alteration to the climate or temperatures whatsosever.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 24 February 2018 9:29:09 AM
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And the closing down overnight of the live cattle trade in 2011, now subject to a $600m compensation claim by producers, against the Government, (taxpayers).
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:47:17 AM
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dd,

Really a huge waste of space, wasn't she?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:54:41 AM
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Her pension should be used to pay the first of any compensation awarded.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 24 February 2018 12:58:44 PM
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All ready people freezing in winter and frying in summer du to the man made gw lie. And they say evolution results in us being smarter. What a joke. Meanwhile China builds 500 new coal fired power stations. The Marxist regressives are sending us backwoods.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 24 February 2018 1:11:23 PM
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If only we could find a way to make them accountable. Wouldn't that be nice.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 24 February 2018 5:32:17 PM
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ttbn,
It's rather misleading to call it a 7 year lie. Gillard intended to keep the promise when she made it, and paid a very heavy political price for breaking it.

It's also completely incorrect to claim it was the beginning of skyrocketing electricity prices, as that had started a few years earlier.

But your claim that there was "no alteration to the climate or temperatures whatsosever" does fit the description of a 7 year lie. According to NOAA data, 4 of those seven years have been hotter than any that were on record before then.

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diver,
While the government's response was an overreaction, it was in response to a public outcry and the industry's gross underreaction to the cruelty in Indonesian abattoirs.

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runner,
China's coal fired power station building program is not as it seems - see http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/reports/2017/05/15/432141/everything-think-know-coal-china-wrong/
And why do you still shill for the atheist neocons?
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:17:40 PM
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Aidan,

Juliar gave a stone cold iron clad guarantee that there would not be a carbon tax under the government she led, only to announce that there would be a carbon tax 3 weeks later. That is an outright lie.

The ban on sales of cattle to Indonesia was a cock up of monumental proportions and has lost Labor country votes for the next couple of decades.

However, you are right, the electricity prices started to rocket under Rudd after he drastically increased the RET.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 25 February 2018 5:28:49 PM
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Unbelievable!

5 years of utter chaos from the lieberals and all you lot can talk about is rudd and gillard. What about hawke and whitlam? And wasnt that chifley just the worst. FFS

Pack of fools the lot of you.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 26 February 2018 12:05:32 PM
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Mikk

I think there is enough said already about Malcolm "homosexual" Turnbull.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 26 February 2018 2:33:47 PM
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Dillards biggest mistake is yet to show itself for the true cost, that is the NDIS, wait for that to be fully funded by taxpayers.

She won't worry on her over $200,000 per year fully indexed pension.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 26 February 2018 8:13:33 PM
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It's amazing how a five second quote can be used.

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead. What we will do is we will tackle the challenge of climate change. We’ve invested record amounts in solar and renewable energies. Now I want to build the transmission lines that will bring that clean, green energy into the national electricity grid. I also want to make sure we have no more dirty coal-fired power stations. I want to make sure we’re driving greener cars and working from greener buildings. I will be delivering those things, and leading our national debate to reach a consensus about putting a cap on carbon pollution".

That's what she said during that interview and her intentions were clearly published in The Australian before the election. The intended method was changed because of the need to negotiate with the Greens in a hung Parliament.

Somehow the "Whyalla wipeout", "python squeeze", "hundred dollar lamb roasts", "economic wrecking ball" and other quotes were allowed to slip by unchallenged, just like the looming "debt and deficit disaster" that seems now entirely forgotten and dismissed.

After all that, where are we now?
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 8:45:42 AM
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'After all that, where are we now?'

one very stupid country for demonising coal and pretending we can alter the climate. Now with pensioners freezing in winter and frying in summer we are the laughing stock of anyone with half a brain.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 8:51:46 AM
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So many take so much for granted yet they don't sit back and realize just what it took to provide the things they take for granted. I suspect we are headed for a period that will make the recession we had to have look like a tea party in comparison. Remember, in the early 90's we had interest rates in the 20's at times, now, they are at around 4%. We have no fat left to trim so the next one is really going to hurt badly. We can either plan for it, or, we can sit back with our heads in the sand and pretend we are well off. You know being better off than others does not make you well off.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 2 March 2018 2:32:34 PM
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