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Ban Political Donations From The Gun Lobby 

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Emperor,

What is your solution to attacks with axes, swords or machetes?

Let's have a nation without guns, ban all guns, nobody has one.

Nobody at all.

What's your solution to disarming the criminal element in society?

Toni,

Many schools in the US already have armed teachers.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 2:01:31 PM
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Yank NRA cops corporate kick in the gob

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-25/companies-abandon-nra-in-wake-of-florida-shooting/9482536

Looks as if the Australian chapter (including those on this Forum) is being left as an orphan.

The massacre in Florida has tipped the scales way the Port Arthur massacre did in Australia.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 25 February 2018 2:26:23 PM
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Issy, now you please explain.

In your ideal world of the blackboard jungle, how would it work? Would guns simply be issued to teachers at Monday mornings assembly, what kind of guns would you recommend, obviously pop guns would not be effective against auto and semi auto weapons. What training and assessments would there be for teachers? Would the guns be loaded, and on open display in the classroom, at the ready. Not much good locked in the principles office. Would teachers carry these guns at recess and lunch times, would they take them home at night? How would you prevent these classroom guns falling into the hands of students? Where would the guns be when the classroom was unattended. Would teachers who are so inclined be allowed to wear battle fatigues and strap on side arms at school.

There is a swag of practical questions for you to answer.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 February 2018 3:11:10 PM
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Dear Paul and EJ,

Thank Goodness that our former PM John Howard had
the sensibility to do the right thing in this
country.

The link listed below tells us that -
America as a whole refuses to even admit
that it has a serious problem with guns and violence.
And more than that, lawmakers continue acting like
the solutions are some sort of mystery. As if there
aren't years of research and experiences in other
countries that show restrictions on firearms can save
lives.

We're told that -

The US is unique in two areas which are related when it
comes to guns:

1) They have more gun deaths than any other developed
nations.

2) They have more guns than any other country in the world.

The following link explains more:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/21/17028930/gun-violence-us-statistics-charts
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 25 February 2018 4:16:24 PM
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It's worthwhile to bear in mind the full text of the 2nd Amendment:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Because whilst the NRA are quite keen on the 'right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed' bit, they apparently don't give a rat's hindquarters about the 'well regulated militia' bit. Because lunatics shooting schoolkids is the antithesis of a well regulated militia. Who would have thought that the NRA would be so opposed to the 2nd Amendment?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 25 February 2018 7:59:28 PM
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Foxy,

Just so that we are all talking about the same things; what is a developed nation?

Paul,

Whatever the regulations are for schools that encourage teachers to be armed, but I'd go for concealed carry, at all times.

Emperor,

How are you going with a solution for axe, knife, sword and machete attacks?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 8:02:19 PM
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